[Video] Proton PPA - Farmrider

Hi all!

Proton II PPA, is this the best AI weapon in the game?
Well , the survivability of the magrider's strafing combined with a weapon that
is very easy to use = Farm.

Anyway, please let me know what you think.

Imo, the PPA isn't especially OP, but since the marauder receive the nerfhammer and the C85 always had a bed design.
The mag wich is getting better survivability against infantries (hard to dumbfire-hard to C4) makes it appears even stronger compared to other ESAI guns.

Prepare to get some flaming .

I don't think the PPA is OP, but I do think it's the most effective AI secondary overall atm.

PPA isn't OP, it's just that TR, NC and NS Vehicle AI weapons totally suck. I hope SOE doesn't nerf the PPA but buffs their equivalents. Sure, PPA's spammability is incredible, but Tanks and Harassers are easy to kill.

Good != OP
It feels like a solid AI weapon - no instagib but with a solid, controllable dps. One thing i would say is a bit over the top is the damage per magazine coupled with its accuracy - having a little more need to reload would likely be a good thing.

That said, the main problem as i see it is the crappy NC and lackluster TR counterparts. I would much more like to see relevant bufs to those then a nerf to the PPA.

Nothing new to see here, this is common knowledge about the PPA since the AV Secondary changes were it got buffed. We know this since several months now, really ...

Also, Harasser and MBT grade ES AI or AV versions are different in power, the MBTs get the better stuff.

Though I'm highly against nerfing the PPA, I rather see the Marauder and C85 Canister brought on par. The best thing you can mount as a Vanguard is the Kobalt(don't even mention the C85) ... and as a Prowler you have the choice, nerfed Fury ... eh Marauder or also a Kobalt or a second Prowler ...

I don't know what Matti want's to "proof" by posting something that we all know already ... it has nothing to do with Air other than I would argue that the Zepher is the better farming weapon compared, but it's on an entirely different platform.

This is how it should be. Tanks are kings of open spaces, not infantry. When I see 50 people running across the open field from base to base just because there is no reliable way to stop all that mass (except for Liberator/dedicated AI tank). It looks like very, very broken at those times.

Buff other Ai to PPA's level.

Well, seeing the track record of nerfs/buffs around here.. That'll be catching a nerf in the future. We can't have an anti-infantry weapon be good at killing infantry now can we?

It actually never got proper buffs, technically speaking. The reason the PPA went from "meh" to good is the nanoweave nerf from PU2, which buffed all splash based weaponry, basically.

i foresee it coming: heavy projectile drop and damage drop-off as of next patch

Ehm no. They buffed it's RoF with the Harasser patch. Yes they nerfed some aspects of it and some other things with PU02 but prior to GU09 it was as bad as the C85 Enforcer(now Canister) ... if my memory serves me right.

edit. Found it.

Source

It might say Fire rate reduced, but we know SOE often has mistakes in their patch notes. What it actually says is refire rate from 600ms buffed to 400ms, that's an increase of a third. Not to mention the fall off damage buff ...

And it's been mostly like this since 11 months ... yes, PU02 nerfed it a bit but as you said, Nanoweaver changes offset this.

This is what happens when i dont do research before posting, lol. Apologies.

The PPA is good, but not OP.
Especially not now when it does nothing to armoured vehicles.

As people have repeatedly said, absolutely nothing new to see here.

Anything mounted on a vehicle that kills Infantry effectively, is OP. We can't have that in Infantryside...

Oh yeah, this is true.
Unless it's on an aircraft, that is fine.

The magrider already has the lowest main cannon damage, if you have a secondary that's useless against armor you're pretty much boned if another tank shows up. And enemy tanks have a tendency to do that. It's powerful for sure, but you're making a pretty large sacrifice to have it.

Plus, if you are making use if it, everyone knows about it. A PPA magrider is a free meal to any 1/2AP or 2/2 MBT.

hfgl if a vanguard comes by

The PPA is good at their intended purpose but test it against anything else, thats where your loving lolpods comes into place...
You have to thank your Tanker finding this sweetspots they are rare like double rainbows i meen... an open field, choke point, no libs killing you or your farm, enemy tanks that are not there or can not reach you and the best point is pulling the right loadout.

Why the heck is ppa more popular after the pu2 nerf?