Vanguard vs C4

Most of the problem for me is that I main VS and I use my magrider alot
I recently started with vanguard and it is VERY hard to shoot on the move and hit stuff so I become stationary and then c4
Magrider never are stationary
But I have to get used to vangaurding
Thanks for the useful tips.

magrider does require a very unique skill set among all of the vehicles in the game.

Oh I see... so pulling 3-4 mags to kill one vanguard that basically costs the same(huge inefficiency) or large group of heavies that is a waste of man power unless they kill that vanguard. Oh yes air can kill one vanguard but what about those that move in groups with skyguards , bursters and sundies behind them? Good luck doing anything.

This is a general problem with ground vehicles, I don't see why they don't add turret stabilization to everything and then do a balance pass. It's not like unstabilized turrets require more skill to use, no amount of skill can correct for the totally random turret movements that little bumps in the ground cause. So you're forced to basically come to a full stop any time you want to shoot something. It makes tank fights really boring tbh.

With stabilized turrets tanks could try to out maneuver each other, dodge shots while trying to keep their back side covered. And they wouldn't be such C4 bait while doing what they were designed to do: take out other vehicles.

Wait one second...

We all know who Klypto is, but who is KlyptoK?

You are joking right?
Vanguard is the only tank that can negate double C4..
Just press F then you have 8 secs to kill the guy before he can blow it..

You telling me that:
1) You don't notice the guy coming up and placing 2 blocks of c4 on your vanguard.
2) Can't kill him in under 8 secs once you do.

So you are soloing in a vanguard, or you and your gunner both lack situational awareness or the ability to kill an infantry with a tank.

Oddly enough they did the opposite a while back. They un-stabilized the secondary weapons on all vehicles, but a lot of people hated it so it got reverted.

My forum account is separate from my main (the one that was accepted into beta). I logged into the other one to charge SC to get the Regulator helmet that was on sale, but then remembered I wanted the Pain Train helmet that was coming out and forgot to log out.

Vanguards die more to C4 than any other tank. 16 KPH for 3 seconds is enough time for someone to catch up to it and C4 it.

The other problem is NC are terrible drivers.

his evil twin?

Exercise caution if you're traveling through or nearby a base / outpost that's being contested; towers, overhead vehicle / foot bridges, cliffs.

Don't get caught up with the friendly footzerg heading into a position or meeting an enemy footzerg, tanks don't capture points and any area of the base that seems to be infantry farming friendly can usually be done from a safer distance than being less than 50m from the position of interest using un-certed zoom optics.

If you're going to focus on AI either using HEAT or HE plan to budget certs for proxy radar.

Are you saying you don't know how to let go of W for a split second and then press it again?
You are BR100 vanguard main.. maybe you should have Alarox teach you some time..

Here is a video...

Magriders are the slowest and the biggest tank, they are the easiest to C4.

Most people don't know how to do that.

It's easier to C4 a prowler than a magrider. Statistically Magriders die less to C4 than the other tanks.

It's time to not pull an MBT in a Hot zone, or start moving around more.

Only way it is easier to C4 a prowler is if is in anchor mode.
Prowlers are the fastest and smallest MBT.

magriders get their resistance to C4 from their unpredictability. since they can side strafe you cannot accurately predict which direction a magrider will go next. i am fairly certain most of the times i have killed people trying to C4 me, i was totally unaware i was under attack until i got the kill notification for running them over.

magriders that sit stationary are wasting 90% of the vehicles potential. in a standard tank style roshambo contest a magrider WILL LOSE because they are soft AND have low rate of fire / DPS. a good magrider driver will glide through the hills hit a target in the rear and then disappear behind cover before they can return fire. it can go places more easily than other tanks so why sit on a hilltop or in a line and do what it is the worst at.

I'm sorry but this is getting on my nerves.

Been playing since beta.

I've yet to die in a tank to C4 and NOT think it was my fault for being unaware or in a bad spot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WHY DOES NO ONE ELSE THINK THIS WAY?!?

This is hardcore L2P. I'm sorry but it is!

Every. Single. Death. Period.

Every one.

Each one was my fault. Including C4ed tanks.

Stop being a bunch of entitled whiney *****. You're gonna die. Deal with it.

Stop dogfighting a reaver in your scythe OVER A TR BASE and whine when you get jumped by mossies.
Stop repairing your tank under a bridge then act all surprised when you get C4ed. (just an example...not talking to you here, OP )
Stop rushing around corners without backup and cry when a max is there to splatter you.
Stop standing outside doorways with your max getting tunnel vision then cry about C4 from the roof!
Stop running out of a spawn haphazardly with no plan when it's being camped by Libs while you have no backup/counter-attack going.... then saying they are OP camping machines.

Ok, got a bit off topic but my point still stands ;p

actually i successfully C4 prowlers far more than vanguards as my heavy assault, because when a prowler notices me laying C4 on him he has to take time and turn his turret or run away, also prowlers tell me when they are completely ready to accept my C4 gift by extending anchoring mounts. the vanguard on the other hand just has to press 'F' and then he gets 8 seconds to have his way with me.

from what i have seen it seems like the pure tank battles are fairly balanced, but the infantry vs. tank game is thoroughly screwed. as far as i can tell the TR get the short end of the stick vs. infantry despite their double tap and generally superior firepower. vanu do well against infantry, probably a little better than they should. and NC complain any time a tank of theirs ever dies to troops.

When I am picking a tank to C4, I try to find the dumbest guy in the herd... That would be the stationary magrider.

Actually, Klypto showed me how to do that months ago.

The point is that most people have no idea you can gear pop. Most people have no idea you can do those kinds of things like that in this game.

Also, Magriders can move in any direction at any time and are the best at getting out of a bad situation due to Magburn and because of how well they traverse terrain. This makes them the most difficult to C4.

Arguing size based on a picture only showing 1 angle. Priceless

From above like this is the only angle that matters as a C4 fairy.