I believe this is mainly with the saron near tarwich north satellite from broken arch road, there have been multiple times from there where I believe it's less the 200 meters and in a small to medium sized fight, people are able to do it with the saron so I assume it's a bug with the gate interacting with the weapon not people abusing the render distance. Going to have to science this later. But on topic, the bug is extremely annoying when your fighting and you retreat back behind the shields but only to get you tank destroyed, it happens now and then but there's always seems to be that one guy that does it and there's a good chance he knows it too but I usually send him a tell and if he doesn't stop then I just suicide C4 him every time I see him and if it's repetitive, I'll just report him for abusing an exploit.
Just report them and they will get banned if they overexploited. Some people were banned a few months ago for having too much fun with the invincibility bug.
I've seen it happen at Allatum, Dahaka, Rashnu, Zurvan, etc. I'm not sure if server load affects it. The code for the shield render must be really embedded with the rest of the base assets, I guess it would take some work to get each shield to be their own entity so they render appropriately. But they really need to get started on it.
With the way SOE exchanges the word "ban" and "suspension" and their non disclosure policy, I'm not sure what gets done. And that's fine if that's how they want to do it. But there is too much of a grey area in terms of "overexploiting". Does a live GM have to see you do it once? 10 times? What if you only kill the vehicles and not the occupants? Does a sub par k/d let you sneak by abusing vehicle kills? Is a player with a high battle rank considered to be in better standing than a lower one? Etc etc.
I'm pretty sure they can just look at the suspect's logs on their end and pass judgement based on that alone.
I agree, the easiest way for them to solve this problem is just to set shield render priority before vehicles cause if computer can't render the shield then I'm sorry you shouldn't be able to shot at what's behind you. There's also bugs like the one I described with tarwich which only occurs to me with the Saron so I'm pretty sure it's something the way the two object interacts.
The worst part is the bases that cause all the new players to abuse this without them even realizing it. The base adjacent to mao southeast gate is a perfect example. If there is a stalemate there a lot of tanks sit back due to lack of cover and it is the perfect distance to not render shields despite it looking like a small distance due to the flats of northern Indar. Would be better to just straight up remove that terrible gate shield. I have had high ranking players abuse me and go on about how they were going to get all their outfit to report me just because I sent them an extremely polite /tell saying that they were firing through vehicle shields and should stop. I fully knew they were abusing it intentionally but these people really need to be given a time-out and told why just to stop them being jerks (I flanked them and killed every one of them )
Also just checked on a player that was for sure abusing the invincibility bug, whom I messaged Higby ingame about, had video of him etc. At the time the player said he was manually disconnected from the game (to end his invincible liberator). Yet he's played as recently as 3 days ago. There's a lot to be said about game mechanics allowing for terrible people. But for a game that already has a rough new player experience, lines have to be drawn. My heart goes out to the new players that get put through all this garbage.
It's really disappointing to see it from br100's, and I've seen my share. Their logic is way off. They report you for killing them while they are firing AP through non rendering shields. I have to laugh at the /tells. It's like they hate getting team killed with rocket pods as much as I hate taking damage from behind shields.
My thread from January: https://forums.station.sony.com/ps2...ut-on-vehicle-priority-when-rendering.166278/
Maybe instead of the shield gen blowing up the shield just changes empires? Still up 24/7 but would allow some back and fourth.
I never shoot through shields that haven't rendered. I will stop firing at them despite having a shot as soon as they get behind the shields. I am a man of honor
