MAX, these weapons are bad there is really no long or mid range effectiveness. close range the player still needs to be extreamly accurate to make kills,b4 u lose half ur life to one enemy. increase max energy bullet size and accuracy at mid range the energy bullets could merge together so they actually land where the dot is typicall vs max adventure, i come around a corner see a heavy , shoots rocket switched gun, he strafes back and forth shooting me to death. i then laugh typicall nc max adventure, i see a bunch of guys in a cap room i speed burst in and lay waste to 4-5 guys randomly pointing and clicking more if engi is fowing me. i then laugh MAGRIDER needs agilty and quickness ,yes this was op when everyone started out and had basic rocket launcher. now that 50% or more of the player base has all the counter weapons the magrider is a joke ranged bullet tuning this is dumb leave it be. IMO Last think starting gun orion only comes with 250 rounds total??? i think each tr/nc come with 400 to start. how is this acceptible? on a normal kill streak with no engi by the time i get to a cap point im out of ammo. i dont think ive ever run out of ammo with nc heavy.