[Vehicle] There is a but guy that shoots at us from mountains far away, i have been trying the mag

After getting racer chassis 3 i realized it was slower than a vanguard with racer 2, and i would say that is really bad that a vanguard runs faster than a magrider, so i realized i should invest in the mag burner want it or not, it is the slowest tank of all three without the turbo, i can be competitive and use as a heavy lighting, no way slower than a vanguard. I do not know if buy the saron for it or not, fust bought the ap cannon and due to speed it has been so disappointing, the thing that was worst about the nerf of bullet speed in anchored mode was the ability to shoot under camping spots where the other tanks with too much bullet droop could not retaliate, that bullet speed allowed to not hit the ceiling of the bridge while the other tanks to hit at you would hit it, the other things on open terrain can be compensated and fast moving targets that you are not able to chase while anchored, but you can compensate i love that kind of ambush. they went down a slope a bridge covering and i anchored with ap with anchored 4 they could not fire back because due to bullet drop the hit the bridge while my shoots just blew them up each time they tried go down the slop, the problem with the vulcan that many think it should be the gun that once was a gun you just could switch and blow up two vanguards with yep f2 ta ta ta shield shield passes tatattata 2 vanguards out of the game and a lighting as tip repairs keep going as op it was, vanu tankers you should really ask to not have the mag turbo as slot but damage control in the cert line.... it does miracles for my light magrider, i think that due to mobility they both have better synergy; with the prowler is it at the other side of the mountain then we are going to get soften them up we will close up, if it is not at the other side of the valley just shoot at them you are doing a lot of damage some people do not understand that the vulcan has an special resist. they say good for destroying sunderers, they have an 80% resistance to the vulcan. you should ask for fire suppression integrated into the cert line, instead of the mag burner. and finding a gunner that we first soften vanguards up and if there is a kill he gets gunner xp is more hard.

I tried reading this in its entirety, I really did.

I still don't know what you're trying to get at after reading this twice.

that the magrider without magburner is the worst tank of all i have tried. but the worst!

Has Anyone Really Been Far Even as Decided to Use Even Go Want to do Look More Like?

This dude is AWESOME! =D

"and blow up two vanguards with yep f2 ta ta ta shield shield passes tatattata 2 vanguards out of the game and a lighting as tip repairs keep going as op it was, vanu tankers you should really ask to not have the mag turbo as slot but damage control in the cert line.... it does miracles for my light magrider, i think "


Shakespeare! himself! Could not have said better!

translation: magriders should run fire suppression because qoinpoenalvakjwne

I learned some tricks from reading the forums, i have never answer or say something, but i have been reading the posts with the the vehicle tag lately; no seriously one of the vanguards was after the esamir western biolab, and one of the vanguard pilots took him some time to return fire, back then no one let you use the vulcan they kicked out of the tank for wanting to try it i had to buy my own, is perfectly fine the increase in range and guess the increase in mag size i did not expect that. pushed f2 and blew them both and a lighting with just the secondary but they do not want to gun if is not blowing 2 main tanks with op shields and a light tank, 2 days ago i had a long range against a 100 br tr in a prowler so i think his tank was top notch my nc has a vanguard with ap and second level of reload it was long battle so i had got the chevrons in the scope to not fail a shoot he was anchored i did not fail a shoot, my gunner shoot at him like mad in the standard secondary gun such a dedication, we where the only ones shooting at him, i do not know if go for enforcer or not, he destroyed us but he was at a blink in red. maybe i am too used to anchored mode. had i had reload speed 3 he would had been dead, so anchored mode is not op makes you competitive against a vanguard with shield, a fight won by a vanguard with reload speed more than 2. is like the mag is too slow stock, i thought i could escape fights as i saw them run but without magburner you move at 62 km/h. so i would ask mag burner or smoke instead for fire suppression in the cert line.

If you're saying that the Magburner should be an always on ability then I am in agreement. A Magrider without it is pretty much useless but if you equip it you have to forgoe some other essential. It should be always available but you can equip an upgraded version if you choose to use a slot for it.

In MBT vs MBT combat, maybe. It's not exactly designed for direct slugfests in 1v1 scenario's. It's strengths lie in dodging enemy fire (dodge 2 to 3 shots and you just managed to evade more damage than the Vanguard shield can at maximum), being able to fire stable shots while moving even across rough terrain, being able to get much more Magriders to fire at one spot as the Vanguard/Prowler need to stick to the road more often while the Magrider can park on lots of inclines, and surprise attacks.
Get that Saron, find an enemy tank, circle around using the all-terrain features and magburn of the Magrider, then blow them sky-high from behind.

All I know is, when I used to magrider, I was out repairing it far more than the other factions were repairing theirs. At least that's how it felt. I mean, I wasn't about to drive over to the enemy and be like, "Do you repair as much as I do?"

Cause' you know, we're kind of like a three-foot hover-saucer and we are constantly moving unlike other tanks that can sit still on inclines, we keep sliding downhill... It's awkward, jumping out and repairing and trying to keep up with the magrider...

but back to the subject: magburner would be nice to always have as a weak constant, but to put on an upgraded thingy to make it useful than it is... yeah...

But this is the oxymoron of the Magrider design. It is suppose to stay at range to use dodge due to lowest hp, armor, damage and speed, yet it's shells have the most drop and slowest speed meaning they are the most difficult to use for long distance. It's ES ability makes it go quickly forward; yet it's strength is to dance around a rock or cover. It's ES weapons were nerfed to be extremely short range on a tank that don't want to be at short range or simply put out a pitiful damage meaning any NS weapon would do better if you're not in ramming range and due to no turret it has the worst situational ability (no turret, can't look up or around) and power to fight air with the main gun (lower placed gun and lower angle it can be moved upwards).

So what we end up with is a tank that's suppose to stay far away and flank from a distance (based on lowest damage, lowest health, lowest speed, no turret, limited situational awareness due to no turret forcing fixed direction shooting) but has all abilities & ES weapons focused on close quarter combat with the worst situational awareness and ability to fight air of all tanks. It really should be one or the other instead of a poor mix of both ending up with the worst of both worlds...

For the xx time...mag armor / Hp is the same as the prowler.

Only the Vg has more armor.

Mag speed racer 3 : 60kph
Prowler speed racer 3 : 70Kph
Difference on battlefield : irrelevant.

The mag is arguably the best AV fighting tank. Prowler has only more stats because it's mainly one manned killing sundys and afk tank pilots deployed at 200meters.

Vulcan op ? Yeah at 40 meters.
The prowler has 0 defensive capabilities, his only "defensive" ability is to have more DPS than the other 2 tanks.

And Dps don't make everyting in an FPS, alpha strike is extremely effective too. A magrider coming from nowhere in front of you unloading his saron and main gun then magburning to cover and reloading is extremely effective / scary.

You can't kill a prowler camping anchored on an hill with a freakin MAG ???? lol go play another game m8 sorry.

All true on paper, but in practice the Magrider is more than competent in everything but direct MBT vs MBT combat. The Magrider's statistics show that it isn't that UP (last time I checked, which was some time ago so if things changed for the worst tell me).

I *think* I see what the OP is trying to do here and I want to do my part.

Here is the entire first chapter of War and Peace with all paragraphs removed...

"Well, Prince, so Genoa and Lucca are now just family estates of the Buonapartes. But I warn you, if you don't tell me that this means war, if you still try to defend the infamies and horrors perpetrated by that Antichrist—I really believe he is Antichrist—I will have nothing more to do with you and you are no longer my friend, no longer my 'faithful slave,' as you call yourself! But how do you do? I see I have frightened you—sit down and tell me all the news." It was in July, 1805, and the speaker was the well-known Anna Pavlovna Scherer, maid of honor and favorite of the Empress Marya Fedorovna. With these words she greeted Prince Vasili Kuragin, a man of high rank and importance, who was the first to arrive at her reception. Anna Pavlovna had had a cough for some days. She was, as she said, suffering from la grippe; grippe being then a new word in St. Petersburg, used only by the elite. All her invitations without exception, written in French, and delivered by a scarlet-liveried footman that morning, ran as follows: "If you have nothing better to do, Count (or Prince), and if the prospect of spending an evening with a poor invalid is not too terrible, I shall be very charmed to see you tonight between 7 and 10—Annette Scherer." "Heavens! what a virulent attack!" replied the prince, not in the least disconcerted by this reception. He had just entered, wearing an embroidered court uniform, knee breeches, and shoes, and had stars on his breast and a serene expression on his flat face. He spoke in that refined French in which our grandfathers not only spoke but thought, and with the gentle, patronizing intonation natural to a man of importance who had grown old in society and at court. He went up to Anna Pavlovna, kissed her hand, presenting to her his bald, scented, and shining head, and complacently seated himself on the sofa. "First of all, dear friend, tell me how you are. Set your friend's mind at rest," said he without altering his tone, beneath the politeness and affected sympathy of which indifference and even irony could be discerned. "Can one be well while suffering morally? Can one be calm in times like these if one has any feeling?" said Anna Pavlovna. "You are staying the whole evening, I hope?" "And the fete at the English ambassador's? Today is Wednesday. I must put in an appearance there," said the prince. "My daughter is coming for me to take me there." "I thought today's fete had been canceled. I confess all these festivities and fireworks are becoming wearisome." "If they had known that you wished it, the entertainment would have been put off," said the prince, who, like a wound-up clock, by force of habit said things he did not even wish to be believed. "Don't tease! Well, and what has been decided about Novosiltsev's dispatch? You know everything." "What can one say about it?" replied the prince in a cold, listless tone. "What has been decided? They have decided that Buonaparte has burnt his boats, and I believe that we are ready to burn ours." Prince Vasili always spoke languidly, like an actor repeating a stale part. Anna Pavlovna Scherer on the contrary, despite her forty years, overflowed with animation and impulsiveness. To be an enthusiast had become her social vocation and, sometimes even when she did not feel like it, she became enthusiastic in order not to disappoint the expectations of those who knew her. The subdued smile which, though it did not suit her faded features, always played round her lips expressed, as in a spoiled child, a continual consciousness of her charming defect, which she neither wished, nor could, nor considered it necessary, to correct. In the midst of a conversation on political matters Anna Pavlovna burst out: "Oh, don't speak to me of Austria. Perhaps I don't understand things, but Austria never has wished, and does not wish, for war. She is betraying us! Russia alone must save Europe. Our gracious sovereign recognizes his high vocation and will be true to it. That is the one thing I have faith in! Our good and wonderful sovereign has to perform the noblest role on earth, and he is so virtuous and noble that God will not forsake him. He will fulfill his vocation and crush the hydra of revolution, which has become more terrible than ever in the person of this murderer and villain! We alone must avenge the blood of the just one.... Whom, I ask you, can we rely on?... England with her commercial spirit will not and cannot understand the Emperor Alexander's loftiness of soul. She has refused to evacuate Malta. She wanted to find, and still seeks, some secret motive in our actions. What answer did Novosiltsev get? None. The English have not understood and cannot understand the self-abnegation of our Emperor who wants nothing for himself, but only desires the good of mankind. And what have they promised? Nothing! And what little they have promised they will not perform! Prussia has always declared that Buonaparte is invincible, and that all Europe is powerless before him.... And I don't believe a word that Hardenburg says, or Haugwitz either. This famous Prussian neutrality is just a trap. I have faith only in God and the lofty destiny of our adored monarch. He will save Europe!" She suddenly paused, smiling at her own impetuosity. "I think," said the prince with a smile, "that if you had been sent instead of our dear Wintzingerode you would have captured the King of Prussia's consent by assault. You are so eloquent. Will you give me a cup of tea?" "In a moment. A propos," she added, becoming calm again, "I am expecting two very interesting men tonight, le Vicomte de Mortemart, who is connected with the Montmorencys through the Rohans, one of the best French families. He is one of the genuine emigres, the good ones. And also the Abbe Morio. Do you know that profound thinker? He has been received by the Emperor. Had you heard?" "I shall be delighted to meet them," said the prince. "But tell me," he added with studied carelessness as if it had only just occurred to him, though the question he was about to ask was the chief motive of his visit, "is it true that the Dowager Empress wants Baron Funke to be appointed first secretary at Vienna? The baron by all accounts is a poor creature." Prince Vasili wished to obtain this post for his son, but others were trying through the Dowager Empress Marya Fedorovna to secure it for the baron. Anna Pavlovna almost closed her eyes to indicate that neither she nor anyone else had a right to criticize what the Empress desired or was pleased with. "Baron Funke has been recommended to the Dowager Empress by her sister," was all she said, in a dry and mournful tone. As she named the Empress, Anna Pavlovna's face suddenly assumed an expression of profound and sincere devotion and respect mingled with sadness, and this occurred every time she mentioned her illustrious patroness. She added that Her Majesty had deigned to show Baron Funke beaucoup d'estime, and again her face clouded over with sadness. The prince was silent and looked indifferent. But, with the womanly and courtierlike quickness and tact habitual to her, Anna Pavlovna wished both to rebuke him (for daring to speak as he had done of a man recommended to the Empress) and at the same time to console him, so she said: "Now about your family. Do you know that since your daughter came out everyone has been enraptured by her? They say she is amazingly beautiful." The prince bowed to signify his respect and gratitude. "I often think," she continued after a short pause, drawing nearer to the prince and smiling amiably at him as if to show that political and social topics were ended and the time had come for intimate conversation—"I often think how unfairly sometimes the joys of life are distributed. Why has fate given you two such splendid children? I don't speak of Anatole, your youngest. I don't like him," she added in a tone admitting of no rejoinder and raising her eyebrows. "Two such charming children. And really you appreciate them less than anyone, and so you don't deserve to have them." And she smiled her ecstatic smile. "I can't help it," said the prince. "Lavater would have said I lack the bump of paternity." "Don't joke; I mean to have a serious talk with you. Do you know I am dissatisfied with your younger son? Between ourselves" (and her face assumed its melancholy expression), "he was mentioned at Her Majesty's and you were pitied...." The prince answered nothing, but she looked at him significantly, awaiting a reply. He frowned. "What would you have me do?" he said at last. "You know I did all a father could for their education, and they have both turned out fools. Hippolyte is at least a quiet fool, but Anatole is an active one. That is the only difference between them." He said this smiling in a way more natural and animated than usual, so that the wrinkles round his mouth very clearly revealed something unexpectedly coarse and unpleasant. "And why are children born to such men as you? If you were not a father there would be nothing I could reproach you with," said Anna Pavlovna, looking up pensively. "I am your faithful slave and to you alone I can confess that my children are the bane of my life. It is the cross I have to bear. That is how I explain it to myself. It can't be helped!" He said no more, but expressed his resignation to cruel fate by a gesture. Anna Pavlovna meditated. "Have you never thought of marrying your prodigal son Anatole?" she asked. "They say old maids have a mania for matchmaking, and though I don't feel that weakness in myself as yet, I know a little person who is very unhappy with her father. She is a relation of yours, Princess Mary Bolkonskaya." Prince Vasili did not reply, though, with the quickness of memory and perception befitting a man of the world, he indicated by a movement of the head that he was considering this information. "Do you know," he said at last, evidently unable to check the sad current of his thoughts, "that Anatole is costing me forty thousand rubles a year? And," he went on after a pause, "what will it be in five years, if he goes on like this?" Presently he added: "That's what we fathers have to put up with.... Is this princess of yours rich?" "Her father is very rich and stingy. He lives in the country. He is the well-known Prince Bolkonski who had to retire from the army under the late Emperor, and was nicknamed 'the King of Prussia.' He is very clever but eccentric, and a bore. The poor girl is very unhappy. She has a brother; I think you know him, he married Lise Meinen lately. He is an aide-de-camp of Kutuzov's and will be here tonight." "Listen, dear Annette," said the prince, suddenly taking Anna Pavlovna's hand and for some reason drawing it downwards. "Arrange that affair for me and I shall always be your most devoted slave-slafe with an f, as a village elder of mine writes in his reports. She is rich and of good family and that's all I want." And with the familiarity and easy grace peculiar to him, he raised the maid of honor's hand to his lips, kissed it, and swung it to and fro as he lay back in his armchair, looking in another direction. "Attendez," said Anna Pavlovna, reflecting, "I'll speak to Lise, young Bolkonski's wife, this very evening, and perhaps the thing can be arranged. It shall be on your family's behalf that I'll start my apprenticeship as old maid."

Last stats I saw showed Magrider was over represented as 2/2 (which unlike any other MBT is required as the main cannon brings less damage then the secondary, unique for the Magrider) and had a tendency to live twice as long but scored approximately same KPH (i.e. stay alive longer but kill slower); Prowler was the highest 1/2 (due to the main cannon) that died the fastest and Vanguard was in between on both stats.

Now you stated in everything but MBT vs. MBT but that's also the main explanation why the Magrider stays alive longer; it can't afford to fight head on as it will be slaughtered and hence you rarely see them pushing anything. This is unlike the Prowler (usually 50/50 between the hill lock down prowler and pushing but the hill prowlers tend to make sure things don't want to come to close) and esp. Vanguard (the amount of suicide rushes I've seen Vanguard to popping their shield and blowing up makes sad). This also skews the statistics because going close to infantry in general = bad idea (not that it stopped players doing it for the last two years) and if you're constantly sneaking about you're going to pick favourable fights. How ever this also leads to the scalability issue; one or two Magriders can skulk around the rocks but try slapping down 10 of them and suddenly the whole idea fails as there's no room for them. This means in any sizable engagement Magrider's can't be used to scale up as a force multiplier. You don't want 10 magriders around pushing the base in the same way you'd want 10 Prowlers or Vanguards pushing the base. Those other Magriders then have to go off skulking behind some other rock picking on stuff not seeing them (or being aware of them) because there's no space for them in the main battle.

D e e R L o r D e
How horrifying.

You are out repairing your magride more because it actually survives the battle.