The Vulcan is getting a makeover to look more TR?

Discussion in 'PlanetSide 2 Gameplay Discussion' started by Angry Scientist, May 22, 2013.

  1. Ranik

    You've repeatedly chosen to ignore my point, that at even POINT BLANK, the Saron / Enforcer had better TTK than the Vulcan just a day ago.

    All of this from "I hope they didn't leave the Vulcan with the worst TTK despite it having no range." + one very silly person.

    I'll leave the OP's thread and not clutter it with talking with people who refuse to see common sense.
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  2. sindz

    As it seems you are wrong. So now you be quiet and let SOE deal with the balance issues, cause you are clearly clueless.
  3. Sifer2

    So in addition to requiring you to be at close range to have any hope of success you also have to be moving constantly? Sounds like a worse weapon to me. Maybe Infantry Shotguns should have worse damage than LMG's since they work better on the move by that logic.
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  4. Ranik


    How about those shotguns that do less damage than sniper rifles at point blank?

    How about those shotguns that are better at long range than sniper rifles?



    You call it "speed and spray". Anyone who knows what they are talking about calls it "you have to be within 50m to do any damage, if not closer"
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  5. sindz

    Im sorry kid, im doing discussing anything with you, anything that isnt blatantly OP for TR is downright wrong and a conspiracy by SOE. How about you go find some more pictures and let this thread be free from your garbage.
  6. Ranik

    You must be deliberatly acting this way. If not I don't see how a human being could be so incredibly wrong.

    Let me spell it out in as simple manner as possible for you.

    As of yesterday on test server....

    Point blank range TTK: Enforcer>Saron>Vulcan.

    Long range TTK: Enforcer>Saron>Vulcan.

    I try and point out this simple fact and comment that I hope it is fixed and you literally deny all of reality to make some infantile point out of nowhere. What are you even arguing?


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  7. sindz

    cause you cant list it as simple as that, you imbecile. Understand that this game is not theorycrafting only. My god you are beyond pants on head.
  8. Ranik

    "Yeah I know your gun only has short range, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't also be out DPS'd by long range versions"

    You keep trying to act like their is some sort of other factor. Do you erroneously think that the Vulcan spray and pray nature makes it anything other than a weapon where you have to put yourself in danger?


    Saying "Their is a mitigating factor" and then not admitting that mitigating factors go both ways is just childish. You should really stop that.


    Seriously, I (and no one else in this thread) have any idea what you are talking about. It's time for you to stop posting.
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  9. Blarg20011

    Please just stop.
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  10. TomaHawk

    I've dumped quite the certs into my Vulcan with extended mags. Is this yet another change that is going to screw players like me now?
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  11. Kosetzu

    If you say the Vulcan is not a close range weapon, what range do you mean to say it's for? The spread of it is constant now and no longer blooms as you fire, so you can't "snipe" with it anymore, and outside of 50m you'll miss three quarters of your magazine. Tell me how it is "designed" to be effective beyond that range? I would definitely say having a 50m effective range is close range for a tank secondary designed for combating tanks...

    Vulcan was good early on, and because the Vanguard tank shield was bugged you could drop it with a couple bullets from the Vulcan. Now they've buffed tank armor (I know this affects all AT secondaries), buffed all but the Vulcan because of forum whiners that felt their faction specific AT gun was UP. Now the Vulcan is dead last for the range it was intended to be superior at. How is that "balance"?

    I rarely use the Vulcan anymore, the Halberd is just better at all ranges... It instagibs infantry trying to C4 or mine the tank, it deals the same amount of damage at all ranges and is very accurate. And that is a common pool weapon... There isn't even a niche for the Vulcan right now.
    So what is the point of the 1000 cert TR specific tank secondary that doesn't excel at anything anymore?
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  12. Slyguy65

    Ya whenever TR gets something fun...it gets nerfed
  13. Ash87

    Aww, that is cute, but it's over now.

    Not only did Ranik use the better Prowler portrait, but he's also right.
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  14. sindz

    Did you actually go bother to check VR and compared Vulcan vs Saraon before crying?

    TTK is shorter on Vulcan point blank range than it is on Saron.

    I invite you and all your hand holding TR friends to do the same and stop crying.

    Magrider side armor test:

    Vulcan: 15sec~
    Saraon: 16sec~

    this is point blank range, if you get to the range where you cant spam saraon (which isnt far cause the bloom is _horrible_) the vulcan comes out miles ahead.
  15. SiosDashcR

    THIS.
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  16. NikkoJT

    Wow guys. Thread about looks becomes thread about stats. This is a new low in thread-derailing.

    I do hope the Vulcan remains badass. I'm interested to see what they did with it - hopefully more than just red paint and a TR logo.
  17. Ghodere

    No screenshots. No speculation. Final destination.
  18. SiosDashcR

    Check it in the VR Training Room.

    Takes two unloads into the rear to take down an MBT, with Mag Size maxed out.

    Considering that there is spread on the Vulcan, combined that with the speed a Harasser's going at along with a moving target -- The Vulcan won't be as capable as people bring it out to be. Hopefully there will be a balance pass in the future - which will make the Harasser Vulcan viable.

    I wouldn't mind the nerf so much.. if it was capable at anti-infantry, which is really isn't. The only argument you can have for the Vulcan besides being "alright" at anti-armor is that it's an AA deterrent as well (although only for hoverpodders). Eh, I'm not too excited for it.

    The Marauder however -- That I like.
  19. Blarg20011

    We need some pics people! This is a thread about looks!
  20. NikkoJT

    Me: "Hey, the OP wasn't talking about stats, let's get back to looks. I hope they do that right!"
    You: "You should go check its stats in VR, Nikko."
    Me: "..."
  21. SiosDashcR

    My mistake - All I read was:

    "I do hope the Vulcan remains badass. I'm interested to see what they did with it "

    And so I thought you meant how it was - as a weapon (not cosmetically).