"You know what's like urban terrain? [insert something completely not like urban terrain at all]." Is that all you have for argument? And then some anecdotal evidence of how you can instantly kill AV turrets (that are firing at you while you're firing at something else, getting several hits in before you can locate them in the far distance in between other similarly colored terrain and maybe occasionally their rockets will actually, you know, render). Armor, currently, is completely outmatched by infantry. AND it costs 450 resources. SOE's argument for increasing its resource cost is how much resource you can get while in it, which is completely thrown off by many people having 100% resource boosts, etc etc. Those without them are literally screwed and cannot play what they want to play. What if you couldn't play your play style all the time and were forced to not be an engineer and flying air all the time? The prevailance of AV weapons is a far greater concern than AA is for you mossy pilots. There are only a few weapons designed to take out air. Bursters being the big one, and lockons following that, sure Rangers, and the occasional other AA gun on a sundy or something but really, your main issue is Burtsters. Also you have to worry about enemy air. Tanks have to worry about C4-spammers dropping from the sky, or popping out from cover somewhere instagibbing suicidally. We have to worry about mines (mineguard helps there, thankfully), we have to worry about (For TR) Lancers, Vortex (lol i know), Comets, racial lockon and dumbfire, NS dumbfire, NS Annihilators, Phoenix and Ravens... apparently it's worse for some with VS/NC worrying about Strikers etc... We have to worry about libs daltoning us from max ceiling. We have to worry about ESF's strafing behind us for massive damage. THEN we have to worry about enemy tanks, harassers, cheapo lightnings, sundies... There are so many counters for the infantry, so much so that every major battle in this game turns into human wave attacks rushing each other across open terrain, ducking behind hills waiting for sundy support to come up (only to have it C4'ed or mined to oblivion of course) unable to defend those sundies because their armor is destroyed within the first few minutes of the engagements and any dedicated armor user is forced to run around like a ******* lemming on foot until their timer/resources are back. That is not combined arms. That is pre-industrial armies throwing bodies at each other without the fancy formations.