Yes I did. And now here are some statistic for you: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AshlLUNJ_SE8dERMcHJlWkJXYy13WVROc2s2TTNjOWc&usp=sharing Top 10 reason that ESF die are: 1: Suicide 2. Collisions 3. Saron laser Cannon 4. M18 Needler 5. Vortek Rotary 6. M16 Rotary 7. Hailstorm Turbo Laser 8. Mustang 9. Annihilator 10. Skyguard. So sorry but no. The best counter to ESF is other ESF.