Thank god they finally fixed the gal

JaceArveduin · Mar 12, 2014

Mrasap said: ↑

“Wait these resistance changes are only for liberators?

So I can still one-clip ESFs and Gals with my M40 Fury Flash?

Okay, almost one-clip Gals.”

I run an Anti-Air campaign with my Basi-Flash, its quite fun

cc2001 · Mar 12, 2014

Mrasap said: ↑

“Wait these resistance changes are only for liberators?

So I can still one-clip ESFs and Gals with my M40 Fury Flash?

Okay, almost one-clip Gals.”

Galaxies received a buff there too (and lightnings a reduction):

“The “Light anti-tank resistance” has been adjusted on several vehicles. “Light anti-tank” includes L105 Zepher, M40 Fury, M60 Bulldog and Underbarrel Grenade Launchers.

Liberator resistance to light anti-tank increased from 0% to 35%

Galaxy resistance to light anti-tank increased from 25% to 50%

Lightning resistance to light anti-tank decreased from 40% to 30%

”

What cswic is raging about is that these changes only applied to the Liberator:

“

Liberators are receiving a few base line resistance increases against heavy hitting damage types.

Liberator base resistance to Armor Piercing Rounds increased from -20% to 10%

Liberator base resistance to HEAT rounds damage increased from -33% to 10%.

Liberator resistance to non lock-on rocket launchers (decimator & default launchers) increased from -87.5% to -70%

Liberator Composite armor is receiving a buff for flak and now increases resistance to HEAT rounds, AP rounds and light anti-vehicle rounds (Zepher & Bulldog).

Flak resistance changed from (4/6/8/10) to (8/10/12/14) each rank

HEAT and AP round resistance added (15/20/25/30) each rank

Dalton Blast Damage resistance added (35/40/45/50) each rank

Light Tank Rounds resistance added (10/15/20/25) each rank

”

Though the galaxy already had some resistances (as opposed to weaknesses like the Liberator) to those weapons based on the last known resistance tables.
http://planetside.wikia.com/wiki/Vehicle_armor_and_damage_resistance
Heavy Ordnance Liberator -25
Heavy Ordnance Galaxy 50
AP Ordnance Liberator -25
AP Ordnance Galaxy 50

I'm not disputing that Galaxies get hit by tanks too, or that a composite change for Galaxies would be a good change, but the level of rage particularly given that it is being directed at other players (specifically Liberator pilots) is goofy/childish.

Calisai · Mar 12, 2014

Kapernum said: ↑

“Infantry gets their **** done first, then tanks. ESF's had to wait a year to get a **** update with gamebreaking "content". None of the suggestions that were made to help out beginners or to make the airgame more interesting were introduced.

Now there's a lib update. Which looks just as **** in terms of creativity. I wouldn't get my hopes up for the gal update.”

Umm... MBTs haven't gotten a refresh... all they've gotten were the nerf/buff cycles just like everything else (including Libs & ESFs).... No new weapons or abilities have been added since Release and only a few (Saron/Enforcer) weapons were majorly changed in mechanics... and those were stealth changes more because of the Harassers want to use the same weapons.

Don't play it off like your last on the list or anything. They are slow on doing all the refreshes.

dstock · Mar 12, 2014

Calisai said: ↑

“Umm... MBTs haven't gotten a refresh... all they've gotten were the nerf/buff cycles just like everything else (including Libs & ESFs).... No new weapons or abilities have been added since Release and only a few (Saron/Enforcer) weapons were majorly changed in mechanics... and those were stealth changes more because of the Harassers want to use the same weapons.

Don't play it off like your last on the list or anything. They are slow on doing all the refreshes.”

Oh wait, Ranger? It sucks, everyone can use it, but ground vehicles have gotten new weapons. Liberators have mostly gotten nerfs, and nothing new. Take a number, your time is coming

MajiinBuu · Mar 12, 2014

Can I still 2-decikill liberators?

Cswic · Mar 12, 2014

cc2001 said: ↑

“"something about me going on about base resists"

.”

Just to clarify, I'm more annoyed about the composite armor change that thus far is only for libs. Base resists aren't such a huge deal as I mentioned earlier.

Who said I'm pissed at lib pilots? I'm pissed at the devs who think changing 1 vehicle comp armor at a time is the way to go. But I can't go chasing devs in game so I have to settle for libs *shrug*

Alarox pointed out that it takes about 28 seconds to kill a galaxy with titan AP, after he said that my mind changed a bit since really that is a long enough TTK. I don't feel that galaxies need more base resist, but their comp armor shouldn't have to remain crap when lib comp armor gets insane buffs.

EmperorPenguin5 · Mar 12, 2014

NoctD said: ↑

“Still seems all too effective really. The Lib is an anti-everything platform, and Libs will be the only real counter to Libs.”

yeah SO unnerf the dalton undo the changes to composite and we'll be fine. UNDO EVERYTHING except the fix to gals.

Cswic said: ↑

“You do have to be as low as a lib would be in order to bulldog. Prior to the squad spawn option, I did pick people up.

A liberator doesn't HAVE to dive in to tank bust, it can just chill and dalton the armor. It's a risk / reward situation.

I'm not sitting here going "give galaxies 30%+ resistance to AP etc too". On a personal level, tank shells never bothered me much. I don't know how all other galaxies feel about them.

I'm more annoyed about the composite armor being made useful for libs, yet they can't manage to patch the galaxy version in the same patch, 'Cause lib update. Maybe they will change the galaxy version in the same patch as well, who knows.

Also, I find it funny that bulldog shots to kill vs libs and galaxies is now back to where it was pre-direct damage buff. It's like nothing ever changed lol.

And I do have passenger seats in my galaxy -.- Prior to the squad spawn update it was just bothersome having to pick people up all the time. Jerk >.>”

Wait WHAT?!@?!??! YOU COULD ONE CLIP A GAL WITH A ZEPHYR!?!??!?!?! WHAT!?!?!?! WHAT?!?!?!? WHAT?!?!??!?!?!?!?

Cswic · Mar 12, 2014

No, it was previously 8 zepher shots.

EliteEskimo · Mar 12, 2014

Cswic said: ↑

“Yup I read that before.

I'm still pissed off though.

I made threads about that months and months back and the only reason it is being ******* fixed now is because of a lib update and they were all "oh dalton / zepher too stronk vs libs" so they just freakin' happened to look at the galaxy too.

On top of that, oh look at the god damn liberator getting 30%+ resistance buffs to AP shells and tank shells. "Oh liberators get shot at by tanks a lot". No really? What the hell do they think happens when a tank looks at a galaxy, the biggest target in the game?

"But cswic, this is the lib update. Galaxy will get resistances adjusted with the galaxy update". Oh? You mean the ******* galaxy update that is unscheduled? Despite it previously set to be BEFORE the lib update? Lol.

If they don't buff galaxy resistance vs tanks like they did libs in the same patch I'm going to kill every PoS lib I see.”

To be honest the new AP resistance to tank shells is a load of crap and I'm going to making the case that it's all wrong. It shouldn't take 9 Prowler HEAT shells to bring down a Liberator or 4 Vanguard AP rounds. I can understand that the galaxy is underloved, but making it brokenly OP against tanks like what is currently planned with liberators in the wrong way to go. I shouldn't have to put 20+ HEAT shells in a composite Galaxy to bring it down if they give it a composite armor cert line for instance. BTW I think it was more like a 50-60% buff against tank shells as the amount it required to kill a liberator went from 4-9 Prowler HEAT Shells.

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