Test Patch Notes July 12, 2013

hey roy i always wanted to ask..WHY ARE YOU SO AWESOME?

FINALLY new VS sounds, cant wait.

And ESF gun changes seems really good. Except this:

Vortek Rotary: Damage increased from 388 to 500, thats a whopping increase.

Now if they would only fix the Scythe from dropping like a sack of potatoes its looking good.

Vanu Overpopulation on Mattherson

I would say considering everything NC gets nerfed because VS whine constantly that it wont even make it into live

Yes, cause thats not the case with any faction in this game. Only NC gets nerfed.

They're also increasing damage output of the other two and cutting the rate of fire significantly on the vortek. Among other changes that were made to all three. Let's not cherry pick the stats. Better to look at them as a whole once it hits test.

Not on PTS/next update ?

Are the gonna unbreak Flash Hands soon?

I know professional cyclists hold their handlebars like that, but I wouldn't advise it when driving an ATV across the rough, dry seabed of Indar.

If only we got these notes more regularly.

great! i'm looking forward to this!

All of the updates since the last major patch (before lattice) have been just keeping up to date with live versions.

They did say they were playing around with the idea. Also what's on the test server doesn't mean final, afterall.

The real Question is:
When?
Wasn it supposed to come some hours ago? Or next midnight?

Buff damage while ZOE is active by 5000%, that means if we miss, we lose a lot of damage.
You never fail to crack me up kid. The only reason I havent blocked you yet is because your posts are so stupid that they are funny.

Lots of cool stuff here - particularly the Advanced Shield Capacitor buff, I've been hoping for something like this for a while.

The ESF weapons balance looks good in concept, but I just checked some of the numbers. I've crunched the numbers for the following section:

"Fire rates have been slowed across the board.
Damage increased so TTK remains near the same.

Hailstorm Turbo Laser: Fire Rate reduced from 50 to 70
Vortek Rotary: Fire Rate reduced from 60 to 80
M18 Rotary: Fire Rate reduced from 40 to 60
Hailstorm Turbo Laser: Damage increased from 308 to 360
Vortek Rotary: Damage increased from 388 to 500
M18 Rotary: Damage increased from 237 to 315 "

If my calculations are correct:

Old Vortek DPS: 6466.7
New Vortek DPS: 6250
DPS Reduction: 3.4%

Old Hailstorm DPS: 6160 4.7% less than old Vortek
New Hailstorm DPS: 5142.9 17.7% less than new Vortek
DPS Reduction:16.5%

Old M18 DPS: 5925 8.4% less than old Vortek
New M18 DPS: 5250 16% less than new Vortek
DPS Reduction: 11.4%



I realise that A - It is a test server build and B - I've only looked at theoretical max DPS, but I really don't think the Vortek needs to have *that* much more DPS than it's VS and TR counterparts.

Let's hope that these numbers are just a starting point for adjustment.

What the logic?! :O
3/3/3/3 is.. the same every upgrade? XD

vanu gets shafted again

Good old higby

I'm not so sure I like the new Mosquito Rotary. It seems like they are trying to make it into a sustained fire weapon, which doesn't make much sense. In a dogfight you want something with a quick time to kill, not something with a slower time to kill, but you can keep firing rounds. Having a slower ttk but more rounds just gives the opponent more time to fight back. Unless i'm reading it wrong. But from the stats, it seems like the Rotary and Hailstorm got nerfed pretty bad, while the Vortek remains better. Wasn't the point of this to bring the Rotary and Hailstorm in line with the Vortek, not keep the Vortek better?

Took a shot at theory crafting some numbers. It looks pretty balanced I guess, I don't see much of a need for different reload times though. Damage per clip, DPS and DPM are using maximum damage. DPM is only simulating the first minute and not an average over many minutes. TTC=time to empty a clip. Old M18 Rotary and Needler for fun.


New PTS Hailstorm
RoF----70
reload-1.75
dmg----360
mindmg-300
mag----45
dmg per clip--16,200
time to clip--3150ms/3.15 sec
DPS firing (5142 avg)
TTC+reload 4900ms/4.9 sec
DPM------------198,367.35
hits to kill-------38 (84% of clip)
TTK ESF-------2660ms/2.66 sec



New PTS Vortek
RoF----80
reload-2
dmg----500
mindmg-425
mag----33
dmg per clip--16,500
time to clip--2640ms 2.64 sec
DPS firing (6,250 avg was 6,466)
TTC+reload 4640ms/4.64 sec
DPM------------213,362
hits to kill-------27 (81% of clip)
TTK ESF-------2160ms/2.16 sec



New PTS TR Rotary assumed +12 mag size (2 more than VS)
RoF----60
reload-2.25
dmg----315
mindmg-270
mag----62
dmg per clip--19,530
time to clip-- 3720ms/3.72 sec
DPS firing (5,250 avg)
TTC+reload 5970ms/5.97 sec
DPM------------196,281.4
hits to kill------43 (69% of clip)
TTK ESF-------2580/2.58 sec



Old rotary
RoF----40
reload-1.5
dmg----237
mindmg-N
mag----60
dmg per clip--14,220
time to clip--2400ms/2.4 sec
DPS firing (5,925 avg)
TTC+reload 3900ms/3.9 sec
DPM------------218,769.23
hits to kill-------57 (95% of clip)
TTK ESF-------2280ms/2.28 sec



New PTS Needler
RoF----80
reload-2.5
dmg----375
mindmg-245
mag----85
dmg per clip--30,000
time to clip--6800ms/6.8 sec
DPS firing (4,687.5 avg)
TTC+reload 9300ms/9.3 sec
DPM------------193,548.3
hits to kill-------36 (42% of clip)
TTK ESF-------2880ms/2.88sec

Where is the Esamir lattice update? Are the test patch notes incorrect or are we still waiting for an update on the PTS?