Suicide as a means to prevent kills?

Discussion in 'PlanetSide 2 Gameplay Discussion' started by StormHawk, Dec 23, 2012.

  1. StormHawk

    I know I've been creating a lot of threads recently, but at least I'm not going ZOMG NERF THIS AND THAT AND THE OTHER NOW IT'S RUINING THE GAME!!!1!

    So I've been practising with my Reaver and I must say I'm really enjoying dogfighting against other ASFs. But I've noticed something and it's kind of irritating me.

    The Tomcats take 3 direct hits to down a Mosquito, and I've noticed that once I've gotten 2 hits and I'm priming/firing a third, enemy pilots often smash themselves into the ground before the missile hits. This gets me a "mosquito kill ASSIST" and a player "kill ASSIST".

    Why don't the suicides count as a kill? Literally every other FPS I've ever played credits the last enemy to shoot you with a bullet with a kill if you suicide, so why not here?
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  2. Leron

    I agree, it would be nice to get kills on the enemy suicides. Many just do it to prevent you to get the kill, others just try an emergency landing to survive and often fails, still get the kills on those guys would be appreciated.
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  3. Aerius

    I hope they never change this. The amount of satisfaction I get from denying the kill to some unskilled scrub who can't dogfight with his nosegun....orgasmic.
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  4. Sconna

    I hope they'll change this and the deconstruction denying. People who likes to annoy people won't like this though, but why focus on such people.
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  5. 4set

    soo, you must be really really bad at flying in this game, if even unskilled scrubs are driving you to commit suicide..

    What I am reading in what you posted, is that YOU are an unskilled scrub who cant dogfight with his nosegun, so you suicide every time you are losing a fight to deny the exp. to the guy who outplayed you.
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  6. CommodoreFrank

    Yeah, I agree that you should get credit for the kill. I kinda suck at flying and accidentally crash all the time when I try escape, and I feel guilty for it every time. It's even worse when people just do it on purpose simply to rob you of the experience.
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  7. Juni

    While I at times do smash my mossie into stuff to prevent people from getting to kill me... More often than not, I panic and smash into stuff accidently... I am a terrible pilot =P
  8. Goodnight

    yeah i suicide as well if someone only uses a2a. if they use the gun i don't bail cause they out flew me. a2a are the epitome of pay 2 win in this game. If the reload time on the rockets were set to something like 10 seconds with 4 secs of lock on time they would be more balanced since people would have to use the main gun of their ships.
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  9. Goodnight

    oh and to the OP.... A2a missiles is not dog-fighting...
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  10. Aerius

    I find that 99% of people using A2A are horrible and easy to get behind. I only die to them when I'm already busy dogfighting someone else and they come in for an easy kill with their noobcannon-fire-and-forget-because-they-can't-aim terribad weapon.
    Earn your kills. Outplay me with a nosegun? I'm not jumping out/crashing. "Outplay" [read: use a noobcrutch whilst 300 meters above me or whilst I'm having a real dogfight] me with A2A and you're getting nothing.
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  11. Yeo-Yin

    and if air is not any longer the hard counter to air, what is the hard counter to air ?

    I agree, you should have the kill if someone suicides/an aircraft explodes and it shouldn't be possible to reconstruct a vehicle if it has been damage during the last 5 sec.
    In LoL you have this system : the last person who hitted you get the kill (if the hit was registered during last 15 sec or something like that).
  12. Poacher

    Ok....this made me chuckle. On another note I have to admit I have deconstructed my basically helpless Sunderer from air before it gets destroyed because of the fish in a barrel scenario as people spawn there.
  13. LibertyRevolution

    It is the battlefield 3 model..
    Pilots always bail in BF3, and it is even worse there, they have parachutes and live..

    As light assault and I'm about to die, I jump jet into the sky and fall to my death suicide to deny the kill.
    So its not just the fighter pilots. :p
  14. antofornax

    I always eject out of my plane in case i survive with nasty terrain
  15. Aerius

    Pitch up as they bail, you'll shoot them down before they've even opened the chute.
  16. smokemaker

    A good way to extend the middle finger to the one who just deplaned you.
  17. Infinity24k

    Lets state on the direct topic first:
    Obviously people suicide in airfights alot. I personally dont think its purpose everytime. A few minutes ago a scythe was behind me and I was flying around a rock which actually wasnt too hard and suddenly I heard an explosion and saw that the guy killed himself in the upper right corner. When you get alot of damage the performance of your aircraft decreases so you are not able to levitate fast enough and sometimes crash into the ground.

    Now on this new I-crash-myself-because-I-suck-**** thats going on:
    First of all if someone is able to get behind you and to lock you as a target, he is also able to shoot you with the primary. So saying that A2A is no skill is ********. Second thing is someone who likes to specify himself on A2A will purchase the rockets of course. So he spends certs because he wants to have A2A fights and thus choses the right equipment for this. When you see an Anti-Infantry-MAX do you jump off the cliff then because that guy doesn´t use the default weapon? You gotta be kidding me, right?
    Third and last thing is: No matter if you like it or not but when you lose a fight and crash yourself in order to prevent someones reward, you gotta be a really poor *****. This is so ridiculous it makes me smile when I see it.
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  18. NOX2097

    Suiciding like that? No, man, I always bail. If I have time to fall I deconstruct (I'm getting really good at doing it fast) else just /suicide, you don't even get an assist lol. Denying kills like that is by far the best feeling in the game and I take doing it very seriously. Like a BAWS
  19. StormHawk

    It's poor sportsmanship, plain and simple. If you're going to die, you're going to die. But for crying out loud don't deny the other guy his well-deserved XP because you feel like being an ******.
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  20. ROMNEYTRON

    If I'm being tailed by a guy with A2A missiles and I'm already down on my last bars of health, I'm either gonna bail or crash.

    Usually guys who are good with the nosegun will kill you before you can bail anyway.
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