Stop whining about air, it is fine.

Having played infantry and air a lot (tanks less so), I can say that air is balanced fine.
Why? Because it really is not that strong.

-It takes a LOT of hits from my main gun in a Scythe to kill a tank or a Sunderer, and thats with the Light PPA cannon, not the default weapon. It takes half a dozen rounds of that cannon to kill an infantry.

-Further to this, I would note that Heavies can destroy a Scythe with ONE A2G missile. I have been downed by just 1 plenty of times, normally Terrans.

-Sunderer machinegun and Skyguards destroy Scythes very very quickly. I cannot fight a Sunderer 1v1, as I lose before it even goes below 2/3 hp. Yet we are supposed to be antitank?

-Having played Infantry A LOT, I can say that I have only died once to an enemy aircraft on foot, and when this happened I was standing on a building killing dozens of enemy infantry. My best killstreaks are 20+ and are all on Infiltrator, not aircraft.

-Flying an aircraft well takes considerable skill, and if you want to go and bully enemy infantry, you better hope you can do it because it isnt easy when you take into account that you are exposing yourself to enemy aircraft and powerful ground fire [see above]. I have destroyed many Mossies who sit there hovering over my team's infantry, easily.

He uses the nose gun

Come patch day the only people whining will be pilots not being able to farm xp on easy mode,they will have to work for their food like everyone else.

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Enjoying the AA buff?

wtf are you talking about, grab a ******* G2A missile launcher and 1 shot planes. I dont understand how you dont understand this.
If a pilot has RocketPods, he does not have A2A missiles so your team's pilots should **** him? Or just annihilate him with machineguns on a Sunderer or a tank when he hovers? He has no hp unless hes NC!

Your post is actually to stupid to answer... but I do it anyway.

Now try with the rocket pods and watch the tanks fall apart within 3 seconds. Or infantry. Actually everything falls apart in under 3 seconds.

I am a heavy with the AA missile and can tell you that it takes exactly 3 hits to kill the light aircraft and much more than my weapon has ammo for anything else. Besides: smart pilots can just flip around and the missile will miss automatically.

If you get actually hit by an unguided high-recoil Sunderer machingun... try flying in the air with your aircraft instead of walking. My Dual-AA MAX, which is about the same as the Skyguard, requires 25/28 shots to hit to kill the light aircraft, which is pure luck to actually hit with that many shots, but most aircraft is long gone before I am through my rounds as of their high maneuverability.

Having played tank a lot I can tell you that once there is any AA equipped with an anti-tank weapon and reasonable piloting skills you are dead, no matter what.

Try again once you get past the starter weapon and suddenly everything becomes a lot easier.

Name one way to fight air from the ground that is FUN to play.

This is why people don't like air.

You get your AA, You stand around around like a jack *** pointing your gun into the air not being able to fight the 100s of people on the ground waiting for a plane to show up.

When it does show up, You do some damage to it and it fly away.

This is not fun and no one wants to do it. So when people have to pick it to defend from air they don't like it.

AlesTwo - everything you said relies on a plane having RocketPods. I eat rocketpod pilots for breakfast, they have no A2A and i just unload into them with A2A missiles and nosecannon when they strafe with rockets. Your pilots are not doing their job.

And nope, i have DEFINITELY been 1 shotted by infantry with missiles. It was the ML7 or something.

To kill a Sunderer, yes I have to slow down and hover a bit. What do you suggest, flying by at max speed on an attack run? Would require MANY passes without rocketpods.

The ML7 is a dumbfire rocket for the terran. It should probably do increased damage to aircraft in my book.

If I try to kill a tank with my machine gun and then complain on the forum that tanks are way overpowered... guess the response.

Ah good that you clarified that for me. I will call SOE and demand the missing 10000 XP for all those hackers that survived my insta-kill AA launcher. FYI: there is currently a bug in the game where weapons rarely do much more damage than they are supposed to, but since you didn't notice the rarely part it gives me a good hint of how much research you spent on gathering your 'facts'.

Attack from range and from high above. The cannons can't even aim straight up, and the further you away the less bullets will hit.

I'm sorry but I call BS on your entire post.

A A2G missile has never ever 1 shotted a Scythe, even prior to the nerf in the last week of beta.
If you've only ever been killed by one aircraft you've been sat in the Warp Gate.

Utter BS.

Don't feed the troll

HA dont have A2G missiles...

Hold on. So you're complaining about how long it takes to kill a ground target, yet you eat other aircraft for breakfast, because you have A2A and they don't? So you want to be able to kill air targets with F&F missiles, and kill ground targets with your machine guns with ease? You are the very problem with most of the pilots out there. If you're getting killed by a sunderer/tank/AA MAX/AA ANYTHING it's because you are not paying attention, and need to **** of the area.

Oh, I'm sorry you're not allowed to pick up an AA role and fight the ground war to, I'm sorry a single infantry isn't able to just run around and counter anything they want anytime they want.

This game isn't a bloody infantry spam, it's about teamwork. As a dedicated Reaver pilot who rolls both CAP and CAS i will say a single dual burster MAX is a MASSIVE deterrent to an area, I see one I call to my squad the general location, and that grid is then locked off until we can get some CAS in the air. 2 Skyguards and a Dual Burster MAX? You can consider that hex, and all adjacent hexes to be free of any air, at least until an organized group can get a couple liberators and about 3 ESF's in the air to cover them from enemy air. It's a damn harder job than this assumed Get rocket pods and farm certs crap you idiots assume it is.

Stop whining, learn to be a fracking team player and not some lone run and gun, why can't I kill anything I damn well please without any help from anyone *****.

Title should be "I dunno how to use forums and ignore the 60+ post about the same thing" and the body can have "No new arguments or information"

why arent the mods locking these things....

The default launcher does deal more damage than the AA one, but not more than twice as much damage. You'd need at least two rockets to take down an ESF.
Two slow, high-dropoff rockets hitting your small, fast, 3-d maneuverable fighter. Were you hovering near to a tower or something?
Best guess is either a bug, or several skilled HA firing on you and you ate multiple rockets at once.

The guns have a limited vertical traverse. An ESF can sit above any vehicle and as long as you can stay above a certain angle, it can't shoot back.
That is why the Walkers are listed as AA guns: Not because they are any good at killing aircraft, but because they can tilt higher than the standard guns.
If the vehicle has AA-capable friends, this may or may not still be an option depending on what they are.

Air is not fine. It's way to easy to use and you can kill everything with those rocket pods.

Just take cover and hide you say? Nah you can just spam Q and spot me anyways.

Take out AA? But it takes like 5 burster max for 1 ESF to be effective. Skyguard is bad and lock on missile are bad.


Air dominate every thing and the supposed hard counter don't work. No one wants to be a deterrent when they spend 1000 cert or 7$ on a weapon.

I SUCK at flying, i cant kill anything that flies, unless the other pilot is worse..

Spamming rockets is easy though, I even kill AA MAX and skyguards with ease, not to mention infantry.. lol weapon