Someone remind me...

Discussion in 'PlanetSide 2 Gameplay Discussion' started by Rilrd, Jan 3, 2019.

  1. Rilrd

    How much free time did DBG promise us for the last month of essentially unplayable servers?

    Edit: by "us" i mean those of us still dumb enough to subscribe.
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  2. Vanguard540

    DBG is certainly aware of what happened to the servers and surely will do something about it. Patience will fix things more than ******** about it on forums. We're all frustrated by the servers but things will get fixed.
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  3. strikearrow

    Usually the squeaky wheels gets greased, but DBG doesn't care about PS2 anymore - it's just a money cow until it's not worth it to keep the servers up, then they'll shut it down. i.e. Complaining is a waste of time because they will not do anything.
  4. Redoubt


    I thought that it was fixed, right? I haven't played today though, maybe its broken again.
  5. adamts01

    Squeaky wheel gets the grease. Loudly ******** about stuff online is sadly the only way to get heard.
  6. Redoubt


    I'm not sure about that. they would've been off over Christmas, and, from what i see the problem has been resolved fairly quickly. In fact, DBG issued a post committing themselves to bettering the servers on the most part.

    What do you think, do things get a little too toxic sometimes? What if you were in their position? How does that play out, just out of interest, I'd love to hear your opinion. I'm not being rude, I'm just generally asking what you think.
  7. Juno

    We probably won't get anything. You saw what happened with the Auraximus directives, so the odds of us getting something is really slim. They are too focused with Planetside Arena to care right now.
  8. Vanguard540

    Damn, if I was surrounded by most of you here in real life, I'd get psycho. Cynical, pessimistic, weak and fragile. A bag of frustration that you keep emptying here. Do you know why you kids don't have nice things? You cry for everything like spoiled brats. Remember that this is a free to play, it's so good it survived 6 years already and they're willing to make the planetside style survive. Even if they need to create a wide audience appealing planetside game. It's a smart move, unpleasant for us but smart.

    Yes it's hard, there are flaws, but overall the game is good and that's why you guys are playing it, and so posting here. You seem to forget it but you play the hell out of it almost everyday. Why? Every other game sharing this style is not as good or even unknown.

    They're willing to improve. They bump into problems and when they do, every little spoiled brat comes crying the saltiest ******* tears about it on forums.

    If there's a problem you can simply talk about it like adults. Be the community that lifts a game up and quit being the nail in the coffin. You don't have to accuse Daybreak of everything wrong around. Do you think bashing them will help? Just follow Nick Silva and think.

    Planetside 2 is good, it's slowly recovering from a necessary evil done in previous updates. It's not easy making the game work. What's easy though is crying over and over, and calling daybreak names because you couldn't get that golden snowman.

    I mean grow the **** up, be real men. Be the reason why Planetside 2 gets popular. Why is league failing for instance? Why many games that used to do very good like WoW start failing? The community has turned from mature 18+ yo players to virgin frustrated kids crying for their moms because somebody stole their sweetroll.

    It's up to the player to make an MMO survive. But most here are lazy. You should be inspiring. Why guys like Moukass, Wrel, Cyrious Gaming, are enjoyable to watch, and why are they good to the game? Read their comments on youtube, they pulled people back into the game. They are the lungs, they give the game a breathe of fresh air.

    But it's so easy to bash **** around because you're frustrated. How many of you complain about bugs and **** but never reported any where it's supposed to be reported? You guys are creating a trend, followed by sheep. "It's cool to call daybreak names". How is that good for the game overall?

    If you don't like something and want to talk about it with other players, fine! No problem about that. But if you keep bashing Daybreak, sorry but you need medical attention.
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  9. Liewec123

    We're getting another double xp event towards the end of the month, devs have said,
    It might even cross with membership double xp for one of those crazy xp nights,
    (Grab 2 xp boosters also and it is INSANE how much xp you get)

    I might actually renew my membership just for that day if it is a crossover xp day.
    I've spent thousands in this game, what is £9 more.
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  10. strikearrow

    The reason children cry like spoiled brats is because it works xD.

    Anyhow, the big difference between consumer complaints and complaining children is that consumers can simply take their business elsewhere and do - if their complaints are not addressed to their satisfaction. Children are reliant on people taking care of them and have no such option - and no right to complain. The philosophical/political/religious dynamics of when people should or shouldn't complain obviously are much more nuanced and there's need to go deeper.

    The point is that consumer complaints are effective and useful.
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  11. Vanguard540

    The thing is that we cannot treat them like ****. They deserve respect. We might get frustrated, but are they doing so on purpose? Sometimes their hands are simply tied because business is business. Being a ****** community in an MMO never helped. Let's treat them properly, support them, give honest and clear feedback without making a bad meme out of the game.
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  12. Redoubt

    Spoke like a true legend. I was thinking the same thing. I appreciated this game too, been really fun.
  13. adamts01

    Different companies handle pr in different ways. Daybreak only makes an effort to communicate to calm things down when things get really bad. They're otherwise absent from social media, and completely ignore any feedback from their test server. Communication is tricky, and every choice pisses some people off. It's not easy, but I do think Daybreak does a worse job than most.
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  14. Redoubt

    Thank you for your reply.
  15. gunnner10


    I do actually laugh every time I think about "DeyBreak Games". They should have picked something cooler like Epic Games did
  16. CaptCran


    LOL! Wish in one hand **** in the other dude. What fantasy land you living in??? They have no clue whats going on with the game. You inherit a game b/c the parent company thinks it's ****** and daybreak is there to hopefully squeeze every last penny out of ******* clients thinking the the game is still golden. It's a private company greedy to the bone. They want us to report people, exploits, etc. b/c they don't have the time, man power, money to do so. Been shady since day one when they took over and deleted anyone for the server that didn't check in before the "time".... I think they need to hire the hackers that exploit the game so they actually have talent to combat the exploits.... but what do I know...
  17. Gen.Drake61



    it may be a free to play game but in my opinion:
    1. as far as ps4 is concerned,it should have had all the bugs ironed out and direct x 11 installed on the api before it was released,the creators of either call of duty or battlefield (i don't remember which,but i remember reading about ot years ago) got sued for releasing an unfinished and broken product,unfortunately in the courts when it comes to who wins vs who loses and whos right and who is wrong is always a matter of opinion in any cases thus neither right nor wrong from a universal pov in society(e.g. a company going after a consumer for say getting their account hacked and then even after reading the tos that states that if you cancel the charges from your bank directly and don't go through the company they can sue you for those unpaid and fraudulent charges even though it wasn't your fault all because you broke the tos instead of going after the person who actually made the charges or peoples and companies point of view,so in a way society is very biased as its designed to be when it comes to consumers,however more often than not the consumer loses because a company is considered a person(technically its not,its a group of people whos purpose is to make money) but after the lawsuit ended,in the judges opinion the company was wrong,but if the judge was anti consumer it would likely have turned out differntly, well after the suit companies started to adapt to the fallout of the lawsuit,in dbg's case they stated on the tos that you cant sue them even if the game is broken(I'm skipping the legal jargon,but basically what you see is what you get) eg.if suddenly the client stopped working be cause of a bug that broke the client and servers and they took 6 months to fix it and couldn't because it require an expensive software or hardware upgrade to their equipment and they had a very small budget,so instead they announced that they were permanently shutting it down,consumers would be angry yes,but yhey couldn't sue because this was stated in writing and you aggreed to that,which i think is wrong morally but thats my opinion) while i understand what your saying,i find that your being insensitive based on your context,hes frustrated which i understand,but don't be so rude and insensitive about it

    2.teamkilling,hrrasment and expoiting,it should never happen on any game,but unfortunately it does and the only way to defend yourself is to have people watching your back and to tk malicous users,im gonna call damage incorporated and its leaders out on this one,and explain to the community why i dislike them and why they are bullies and harrassers,so basically i team killed one of their leaders,N2B,beacause i ran him over accidently with a sunderer,he c4'd my squad to death and i was already having a bad day with people teamkilling me just to be malicous towards me,well i had had enough and hunted him down and tked him,well i joined dmag not relizing n2b was a part of it,found out they try to push out people from the game by this method of hunting players down and repeatedly tking them until just quit the game completely,and another method that outfits like this use is to tell the outfits that are well known a do the same thing to add them to a list,and kick them out of squads so that they cant find a squad,eventually leaving the game because they have no backup,its call exclusion,in addition some members of dmag exploit iso( i remember telling them i was gonna stream,i hear something about exploiting iso,and another member later on joined while i was streamin and either Bgalla1 or n2b told the person that joined when he started talking about it to hush,eventually even after i apologized to n2b and asked him to apologize to me for tking me,dmag leaders invited me to a private voice chat,made some bogus excuses,and kicked me out, well then they've targeted me at a tech plant i spawned at walked past them and was about pull a fighter (mosquito) when either n2b or bgalla1 came up to me from behind,and tried to knife me to death,killed him because i told them i will defend myself,they wouldn't let me get an aircraft at all,and i had to spawn somewhere else,theyve been trying to push me off the game,but eventually they gave up,even found out that one of them,(i believe his name is dash button) targeted one of our outfit members i suspect because i told her to leave dmag because of what i experienced and because i told her what they do(although that is debatable because he did state that hell teamkill you for no reason at all),she's had her fair share of issues like what I experienced and almost left the game completely,and i convinced her otherwise,started soloing and wouldn't join squads or other outfits because of the toxicity within the player base,but me,her,and some other players who are fed up with these issues and players decided to make an outfit that doesn't have these types of players in it,which is a problem within this game and that we will police should they actually make it into our outfit,I find that a lot of outfits don't really kick out these toxic players or do something about it,they may even be run by these types of players, i was extremely angry when they said on twitch they had no solution to this on ps4(teamkilling) and that they were not going to get into it( the last part they said makes me feel like dbg as a company doesn't care that their are players who do online bullying ingame,i do however understand that they may not have a solution) our outfit the phantom menace has had to develop our own code of conduct in order to both prevent users like those on dmag from getting into our outfit and wreeking havoc like what happened in dust514's corporations when malicious players took over and destroyed other players corporations and communities, and its based on a 3 strike system,which i think we shouldn't have to do as this is a game(yes,i even made a it in a wordpad file format on my windows PC,ironic,isnt it.) because an outfit is not a company and it isn't our job to,i would love to have fun with many players but some players within the community are toxic and malicious,and its dbg's job to police the community,not the playerbase(what little is left of it),our outfit also suspects that dbg is struggling financially due to the sanctions against its parent company Columbus Nova because of Russian influence and politics( they denied that they were ever owned by Columbus Nova which is standard procedure for something like that,which is moraly wrong in my opinion for them to do that (their are internet archives on the web if you don't believe me,you just have to look in the right place),then check this out: https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2018...-changes-its-tune-on-its-russian-affiliation/ thought they likely wont tell you directly that they are stuggling financially because thats their business and they don't want to panic the community,one of our leaders pointed out that dbg had a bunch of hiring positions for software and hardware technitions and engineers that day,so its pretty clear theyre struggling,so the game may or may not survive even if they did promise to support it,again only time will tell,so we don't know for sure,as for the reason why free to play games don't really survive that long,its because:
    1.you need money in order to support a game this big,or any game,free to play or not for that matter ( they even stated they had a budget in a twitch stream,which means its probably not very big because of the above mentioned( i hate politics) and if you don't make enough then your favorite game gets shut down,which is why they said they are restructuring the company to make it more profitable,and one of the reasons why they are having layoffs,because if you cant pay your staff if your company has too many employees and isn't making enough( which is most likely (at least I suspect) why the fixes for the crash on ps4 and problems such as the unfixable bugs on both platforms is slow which is why they are moving to direct x 11 because some of the bugs can't be fixed without it( again I feel they should have released the game with direct x 11 as ps4 does support it hardware wise which is why I see it as a broken game that should have been fully fixed before release, malicious players have already been taking advantage of them to cheat on ps4(yes that means you dmag,and I've already reported a player for glitching under the map inside a rock killing everybody on tr (he was vanu),we've even noticed what we suspect are lag switchers on ps4,though we won't know for sure until the game client is stable after direct x 11 is applied and the crashing is fixed.

    2. malicious players (hackers,cheaters,and toxic players) move in and begin destroying the legit player base,thus the game eventually becomes unplayable because all the legit players leave and then it just a hotbed for cheaters,its an online game company's job to make sure that no malicous players can make it into a game and destroy it from the inside out,which is why i was furious tht they announced that they wouldnt be handling teamkilling( dust514 and ccp all over again).

    i had to say something,you came off to me the way you said it as some entitled insensitive moron(oops i guess im the incensitive now,how does it feel) just because players are frustrated that dbg isn't listening(they are listening on some things but may or may not be on others) to the community about these issues because either the company has no solutions,they don't have enough staff because of financial issues,etc,i get what dbg may be going through as a company( were not stupid dbg,some of us do actually read the news,understand what may or may not be going on as company and can piece together bits and pieces of information to see the larger picture of the potential situation and results because i have been keeping a close eye on the web and news regarding planetside 2,s future should dbg suddenly give up on it because of all these various issues ) so try to understand his point of view:
    hes frustrated because nick silva promised something to the community of planetside 2,but from what i can understand the community has not recieved it(certainly not him or her) and he/she feels the nick silva may have lied.
    try to be more sensitive to others and understand their pov before you type,because to me,you seem like your doing it in order do be disrespectful,to bully,and to harrass,i deal with enough of this in game on ps4 when it does happen,furthermore you contradicted your self,now your complaining that hes complaining.
  18. Vanguard540

    TLDR sorry
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  19. Twin Suns

    Dilly! Dilly! *slides* Bud Light™ down the bar. Cheers!
  20. Gen.Drake61

    The fact that you didnt bother to read my post only confirms my point.

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