SOE- Balance Vanu MAX to be on equal with NC TR AV, especially ZOE and Comets!

Discussion in 'PlanetSide 2 Gameplay Discussion' started by Mystogan, Feb 11, 2014.

  1. jaktrobot

    Yeah i dont understand why comets was nerfed.
  2. Vikingo

    And every NC player you know consists of your alt NC character I guess.
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  3. jaktrobot


    Zoe maybe had slightly to good mobility, but died damn fast, so it was ballanced also, one heavy rocket after some small dmg used to kill u.

    Zoe was a glass cannon so i didnt understand all the whine about it. They could give us back old zoe but remove the strafe speed, i agree that was kinda stupid tho, dodging rockets and stuff, otherwise the speed was okey.

    Now i use charge and can take more dmg so i guess its kinda fine, but yeah zoe got overnerfed that is 100% sure.
  4. jaktrobot

    So u dont agree nc maxes are op atm?
  5. Vikingo

    No, but I guess that you and "all your NC buddies" will continue to beyatch and moan like a true Cobalt VS
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  6. Astriania

    Go home, you're either a troll or so completely ignorant of the situation before ZOE's nerf that you can't make a useful contribution.

    NC MAXes did not get an upgrade at all in the performance patches so I'm not sure how they became supposedly OP.
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  7. Paperlamp

    Comets do need a buff, but if that happens, Mercies need one to be as good as Blue Shifts to be fair.

    And TR's lockdown ... hard to feel much empathy for VS MAXes. I don't think even a damage reduction would save it, really.

    But yes, comets do suck.



    Right now Comets are kind of like a Falcon where you have to land two shots instead of one for almost the same damage, and while they have no drop, they're very slow. Falcons are definitely better while being very similar in purpose. Pounders are an entirely different beast with different applications.

    I think they need to find a way to make comets distinct from Falcons more, not just try to make them into the same thing in a different form which'd likely just end up with one being better than the other.
  8. Bape


    Did you know NC maxes are only good at killing at close range right? You do know they have a small ammo pool and the longest reload in the game? You do know a TR/VS max can kill double the infantry a NC max can in a minute? Do you also know NC max has the worse sustain fire compared to TR/VS? Did you know that TR/VS max can not die from a NC max with extended mags if they have full rank kinect? Did you also know a NC max needs extended mags to kill a TR/VS max that don't use kinect?

    Did you also know a TR/VS max don't really need extended mags while the nc max MUST have it? Did you also know NC maxes has to equip slugs to kill at about 15m+ range while reducing their CQC damage? Did you also know that 85% of the NC want their shotguns removed and get gauss rifle instead on our maxes? But don't worry go on with these imaginary friends that think the NC max is top gun right now.
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  9. jaktrobot

    Yeah cause cobalt nc didnt whine and moan about Zoe 24/7 hu?

    If u dont agree comets sucks compared to flacons and ravens, then u are biased.
  10. Mystogan

    Comets suck, most of us, even we, who play NC or those who play TR, agree with. They need buff to be on equal foot with Punders and Falcons in term of MAX TTK and Vehicle effectivness.

    Please also ignore another therad that came up with same title (lol!) as mine here. I have nothing to do with it.
  11. Peter Daniel

    The nerf hammer is always too strong everytime it is used...
  12. Vikingo


    Oh! So it is only about Comets now? well well.... what happened with the "zoe is ballanced" and nerf all other empires than VS bs you have been spewing all over balance threads since you created this account.
  13. Mystogan

    Here I am again and I will come back until you SOE will buff COMETS to be on equal. Your nerft to them after ZOE was unnecessary totally. All I want is to be on equal foot with other MAXes when I meet them with Punders/Falcons. I dont want to lose "bacause I have worse weapon", I wanna loose "because he was better/faster".

    Today I got few fight with other MAX, as Vanu MAX and NC MAX, also against TR

    Fight in short:

    1. I play NC Falcons, meet Vanu dual Comets. I hit him with both Falcons, he hit me with 4 Comets. Now I reload and Pull my Aegis moving to sides, 3 Comets hit, I hit him with Falcons and BAM- I win. Not because I was better but because he had nothing to block my Falcons while I could do this. Also he has to hit me with 4 Comets to even think about chance, while I need only fist shot to take most his HP. That wasnt fair
    2. I play Vanu Comet MAX, met dual Punder TR MAX. I land all 4 Comets on him and while I HAVE TO RELOAD he just keep shoting punders at me, because he has 4 in each mag. And We are equal in aim, because we fought again in biolab two times more. Each time he wins simply becase he doesnt have to realod. That is unbalance
    3. NC Falcons meet Pounder. Was even fight, but again Aegis got me win, Simple because of insane damage from Dual Falcon shot. I will sorry for other MAXes because I dont think they even have fair chance and I dont like it. It is like one Faction LMG were like 3x time faster, hit harder and had 3x magazines and I will all the time- NOT FUN AT ALL.
    4. When my Aegis was down Pounder MAX won, becasue I had to reload.... While he can keep shooting. I think because of AEGIS it is more balance then with Vanu, but still 4 mag size against 2 and 1 is little too much.

    So SOE please buff Comets dmg OR mag size because right now Vanu MAX loose against other MAX in MAX vs MAX anti-MAX loadout simple because you SOE make Comets too bad. I want to have equal fights, bases on reflex, aim and skill. Not because clearly other MAX has better equivalent of my weapon.

    While I play HA, no matter what faction I stay on equal foot with same-type LMG (for example Orion vs Carv vs Anchor in room) nobody wins bacause he has better weapon but because he is better/more lucky.

    So please do the same with Comets to santd equal with Punders and Falcons in MAX vs MAX fights. Thank you.
  14. Thefailknight

    I'd REALLY like to see a comet buff myself. I just unloaded about 4-5 clips into a lightning and barely did 1/5 of its health in damage. I was hurting MYSELF more than him at ******* point blank. If I'd been in my NC or TR max he'd have been in pieces just using twin falcons or twin pounders.

    Also, buff the quasar. Or w/e the starting AI weapon is for VS. Because good GOD that thing is worthless. I kill more infantry with my bursters than that thing.
  15. faykid

    I never tried NC and TR versions of comets, but I know one thing - if you see NC or TR AV Max, as a Max, you don't think, you RUN. Because one dual shot from NC leaves you with less than 50% armor.

    And those who believe that VS Max will have advantage against NC Max in open field - those guided rockets will prove otherwise. Like two hand mounted AV MANA turrets, that's what they feel like.

    Also, try and get ambushed by single infantry wearing dual Vortexes. Feel the shame and humiliation being slowly killed by bullets while unable to do ANYTHING, anything at all against that meat bag. You will run and hope the guy runs out of ammo or has bad aim.
  16. vincent-

    Your house is full of lies and harlots. Your reign of scat maxs will meet it's maker in days to come.
  17. Booface

    Comets are great already. They have better range because of no drop, they do terrific damage, and they can also kill infantry better than any of the other MAX AV options other than Pounders. There are things you can complain about for Vanu, but Comets are not one of those things.
  18. hawken is better

    AHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAA

    Sure. I'll trade my AV Pounders for your AI Mattocks. Deal?
  19. SnatchMaster

    The ZOE max was OP on release. Anyone denying that has a screw loose in their heads. Overnerfed though, as I'm seeing more and more VS MAXes going back to using Charge instead. Then again, most people won't use something unless its clearly too powerful to exist in the game in its current form. Seen many harassers around lately? I haven't.

    Still, I honestly don't think that any of the MAX abilities are that great anymore. You still take damage through the NC MAX Aegis Shield, which really should be more like the Vanguard shield imo, but that might be too good. The Lockdown mode for the TR MAX, and the Prowler as well, doesn't really seem in line with how the faction is supposed to function. If the TR are all about speed and dakka, then why give them an ability that renders any speed they have to be absolutely null and void? Yes, the firing rates and reload times are reduced, but as anyone who's played any FPS would be able to tell you, sitting still makes you an easy target.

    While I don't think that the MAX abilities are completely worthless, I do think that maybe they should be looked at a bit.
  20. Crackulous

    Don't change our MAX ability. Our faction needs to learn how to make the most out of Charge, rather than relying on the Zealot Overdrive Engine handicap. Besides, Lockdown is just as bad, and Aegis isn't that much better. Comets could be buffed, yes, though the similarity between them and Falcon makes balancing these two a difficult task. There's no need to alter our AI MAX arsenal, don't fix what ain't broken.