So... NC MAXes still "OP"?

I notice that the hooblah that was around regarding NC maxes have died down. Have people changed their opinions now? Or has the argument been taken elsewhere?

Edit: Or did I miss some post from a developer. Wouldn't be the first time..

The arguments change like the friggin wind here. People still think they're OP probably but they're busy crying about newer things.

Okay, seriously. Frig-gin is censored. I don't even know what culture that is supposed to be offensive to. This is ridiculous.

Yeah, when I'm running a decently upgraded dual mercy max vs 2x hacksaw NC Max and he kills me in 3 bursts while I manage to tear through about 1/3rd his hp...


pretty damn OP. honestly? Just buff the TR/VS maxes. **** nerfing the NC, MAX units should be terrifying like that.. right now TR's pea shooters and VS's pewpew flashlights aren't cutting it.

Considering how things are "adjusted" around here, the NC max will see the chop block with the next content update, which will address maxes specifically.

If the NC max is nerfed I won't be amused. TR/VS need a buff, when AA bursters are a more effective AI weapon than their actual AI weapon something is wrong.

Or just gives your dual mercies. ^^ I'd happily take them over my Grinders any day since I'd actually use the Max outside of Bio-Labs than.

i wouldnt mind a slight nerf if it'll get the fotm people to go elsewhere. im more in favor of improving the tr and vs maxes though

I think we are just all sick of reading about it.

Actually, that is one of the more cruder words in the English language and is quite rightly censored.

It's an older swear word which is why a lot of people don't realise that it is indeed a crude word. It's as every bit as coarse as the "F" word.

Not that I'm a prude. Swearing doesn't bother me. But no surprises that it's censored.

As a VS player: no, NC MAXes are not OP, some players are just smart enough to use them in situations where they're most effective.

If the developers want to address any rebalancing amongst the MAXs, they should be thinking about buffing VS and TR MAX ranged capabilities, not nerfing NC MAX CQC capabilities.

Yes, they are still preposterously OP, at least when used in CQB. They instagib HA's with full shields, full health, and full vanu. The real problem is that there is no counter to them in bases like Biolabs. TR and especially VS maxes are a joke in comparison and have no chance at all against them. The only time NC loses a biolab is when they leave to get drive-through freedom fries at Indar Crown & Grill.

But Higby acknowledged it, said that the devs are "rebalancing" the maxes (whatever that means), and so everyone is cooling off.

Yep, still broken. A ScatMax shouldn't one shot kill a TR/VS MAX at any range. You don't see TR/VS one shot killing them at medium+ range do you? And how many medium range objectives are there? Everything that matters is up close.

Anyway, Higby just tweeted that they are balancing MAXes right now. It's safe to assume the NC MAX is at the heart of that.

They are not op just, verygood at close range. if you see one shoot it at distance.

I am sorry to all TR an VS, but NC MAXes are not OP, they are only OP in closest range. I had problems with enemy MAXes while on my scatMAX even when being repaired by engi from behind a rock, just because he was shooting me from 15+ m range. If you let the NC MAX get close to you, you deserve to suffer, as it's very easy to counter NC scatMAX on his way to you.

What would be the shotgun on max good for if it had bad range capabilities like now, but also sucked close? Why would you want something to be nerfed not to be not overpowered, but to be underpowered? Be careful what you wish for, you may create a precedent which may get your faction shafted next time.

The precedence has already occurred. I just hope that the NC max receives viable mid/long range options once the castration of the short range combat occurs.

The only thing that NC has, others want it nerfed....
Let's start with other factions.... nerf TR weapons, nerf VS weapons, all of them, nerf prowlers, nerf mosies, make the TR and the VS infiltrator composite helmets glow like an anglerfishes glowy glowy thing...
And after that nerf the NC MAX.

My advice for dealing with NC MAXes? They're hard and have sharp edges. Stop trying to run up to them and give them hugs and don't stick your finger in that socket and quit playing with that power cord and so help me if you touch that stove...you know what...GO AHEAD...TOUCH IT. See what happens.

We told you that about Magriders and you wouldn't shut up until they became the worst MBT in the game.

So eat your own words on that one, you already created a precedent where YOUR faction is getting shafted now, after NC and TR shafted the VS by not supporting the logical decision to leave the Mag alone and buff the others. You're in that situation now and I find it funny how every NC is now scrambling to defend their MAX right after they gloated about the Mag getting nerfed.

But then again Higby is a biased NC player so he'll probably spare NC.

Yes to this, if we get nerfed, give us something to use mid/long range.

That's about what I meant. I have a feeling this games is coming very close to perfect imbalance, where everyone is complaining about everything, nothing is really balanced (which would require factions to be mirrored) but this big 'mess' makes everything kind of balanced in a way in the end, just every faction reaches the balance from other side.

There are three sides to this coin, and to me it feels like every side wins about the same, just in different situations.

If that is true, well then I am not against any nerfs to have every faction keep it's strengths, but it would be better to keep the NC maxes as they are and give back the great mobility to Magriders.

I am not sure but I think I read somewhere the mag climbing and strafing nerf is in the game temporarily, until devs find equilibrium. I hope it's true. (And that's coming from NC, who C4s magriders and hate how mobile they are. They make me waste C4s. But still.)