Server Smash killboard: Top 10 weapons from last 5 server smashes

Or at least the last 5 recorded by -

Source: http://ps2alerts.com/serversmash/match/ss/1
Can edit the last number there to 2,3,4,5 etc. and check the weapons page and see more weapons.

Disclaimer: Before jumping to conclusions keep in mind the Server Smash experience/environment is very different than live. That said, it does require a more competitive mindset and players are pushed harder to play objectively. There is no room to pad your KD, no clueless low BRs to farm, cert gain doesn't matter, etc. etc.



Unfortunately no TR matches were up that I could find.


I think the most interesting weapons on here are the GD-7F as it's the only carbine making it into the top 10 on any of these, and the AF-4 Cyclone since it seems to place much higher/more consistently than other SMGs.

And of course, the Orion topping most of these is no surprise, but to be fair NC seems to use a wider variety of primaries. And of course, HAs are by far the most used class(it's a game of pushing/defending points most of the time) so LMGs naturally will be on top.

Anyway, read too much into all this and get into petty arguments!

conclusion:
Reaver OP
AVNade OP

AV nade is getting changed though(or has it been already? I'm away from my rig using a shizzy laptop)

Will be interesting to see how MAXes factor into games after the AV nade radius nerf. It will stick to MAX/vehicles now but for SS I don't see that being anywhere near as useful as its previously kind-of huge radius.

And yeah, Reaver is definitely the best Server Smash ESF. Scythe can do its lolhoverduels all it likes in live but on SS that don't fly.

good point, forgot about that because i was busy Spikerpwning.
i guess the real point is that we don't have the numbers of thrown concs and the equip rate of clear vision.
i'm predicting a huge rise in both and it will be interesting to see what follows.

... Wouldn't... wouldn't...

Wouldn't the Orion be concluded OP?

Yeah but this is SOE's official stance on the Orion:

why?
the anchor scored more kills once.
balance is obvious

also 2 other points i didn't mention it:
Forumside already complains about it, no need to conclude it.
I'm a VS Main (damn, full disclosure)

additionaly i don't know yet what VS still have that can be considered good aside from the Orion after the PPA nerf so i'm not quite sure what the current overall balance is.

Three of five have Orion, AV Grenade, and Anchor as the top three in that order.
They all have Orion, AV Grenade, and Anchor as the top three in any order.
Additionally, all five include the SVA-88; four of them include the Carnage.

The only Vehicle weapons on these charts include Breaker Pods (twice) and the Mustang.

There's clearly some manner of sorcery involved in all of this.

I would like to take this comment to reiterate something very important that the OP said:

So please don't jump to conclusions about weapon balance from the overall kills during an organized match.

SVA LMG? Serpent carbine? Pulsar C carbine? Parallax sniper rifle? Blueshift AI MAX?

I dont say these weapons are overpowered, but they are definitely among the best infantry weapons in the whole game.

SVA-88 would replace Orion. Whether or not it'd compete with the Anchor is hard to say. The .75 ADS is still very strong on a weapon with decent TTK, and the SVA-88 has more rounds per mag which is sometimes pretty useful for defense. It loses a fair amount of close range punch though, and the Anchor is much more accurate.

VS AI MAX is also still better than TR's probably. And the Lasher actually has its usefulness in the point spammy-ness of it all.

I don't think an Orion nerf would bump them down enough to make TR a more popular SS choice, might be enough to make NC the top choice though.

Every faction's sniper rifles are the same except the TRAP/Railjack/Phaseshift

Parallax is not going to make any difference, plus sniper rifles don't see much use in server smash.

the glory of the SVA is long gone.
the serpent is the exact same as the GD7F +carbines will never be a faction maker due to the limited range
Pulsar C is a slightly worse merc
Parralax is a clone of all factions + it is a sniper and therefor irrelevant. peoplr will not suddenly go around quickscoping. (for which the ghost would be better anyway
and i'm quite uncertain that a... what? 0.1° improved starting CoF compared to the mercy for a tradeoff of lower DPS is going to be that much og a problem. tough people are crying blood and water over minor advantages of the orion so we'll see

This is the obvious and definitive proof that the Orion, the Anchor and AV grenades are horribly OP, borderline broken weapons. OMG SOE pls nerf to the ground ASAP, game literally unplayable.

Longshot, RAMS 50.cal and other NC/TR sniper rifles have bullet drop, Parallax not. That makes sniping quite a bit easier.

Nope, all of them have bullet drop. VS's no bullet drop trait isn't applied to sniper rifles - would've been a straight upgrade sort of situation. The Phaseshift is the only sniper rifle that doesn't and it comes with some pretty harsh downsides.

The obvious solution is to nerf every #1 ranked weapon in a never-ending cycle of nerfing until we get to the bottom of the barrels, Spiker, and then nerf that, so that we start all over again with the first #1 ranked weapon, until we eventually end up fighting with sticks and stones.

See? VS have weapons that can be considered good aside from the Orion.

Also, why is the glory of the SVA gone? I still see a lot of people using it. Its on every top list of the server smashes too.

I honestly think that the Orion is only on there because people are told its good and, due to the structure of command and competitive nature of Server Smash, people are told to equip what they think is the best. From my experience, the Orion is all right. The Flare is actually my favorite LMG so far and my stats show it performing far better than my other LMGs. I auraxiumed the Pulsar LSW first and then the Orion. The SVA, Polaris and Flare were all worked on at the same time.

I'm clearly not the best player but I'm also not terrible. I honestly think with the current state of PS2, 167 damage weapons have an advantage due to how I believe hit detection problems are affecting 143 weapons. This is clearly all speculation but its an explanation for how the Flare performed so well for me than the other LMGs.

A weapon that may as well have the NS logo slapped onto it, you say? Not really sure what you're trying to imply here.

Gd-7f only carbin cause it's the only one TR players can use