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yes ZOE.

Ah, lets just hope this patch never goes life ...

Higbys dog deserves a medal!

TR maxes clear room with lockdown ok DD

Point-blank it's better, but keep in mind it's bullets travel MUCH slower, and don't do as much damage at range (Vulcan starts dropping off at 10 meters, basilisk starts at 130 meters).

The basilisk is FAR more reliable at range against air and infantry.

That said, yes, the vulcan is still gonna TEAR through stuff like tissue paper, while the VS and NC will be trying to fight back with rubber mallets.
Some "Balance" job SOE did....

Also, the Vortek Rotary (AKA, the one half-decent Reaver weapon) was nerfed to sh*t, while the Scythe (The ground vehicle/infantry murder machine) was left uneffected.
Feel free to rename the Reaver to "Flying Coffin", SOE.

• Added bullet drop to VS Shotgun slug ammo because the gravity-free projectiles have been outperforming the other two factions by a large margin

Hehehe

the VS AI weapons are much better then the TR AI max weapons at all ranges, and much better the NC max weapons at medium/long range

I can't even reach that screen, game just crashes when I launch it then I receive a G99 Error because servers are being taken down for the update. Back to Team Fortress...

They can't give you anything. You imply you'll never use the vehicle again in any shape or form with any of the certs you already spent, but you will. You might change up how you play the vehicle but that is not enough to justify a full refund.

update downloading now.

You haven't played the patch yet, it is irresponsible to make such harsh judgements.

Extra early release? You mean 4 hours later than usual. It's 19 here in Sweden now and it's gonna take 2 hours. Perfect for taking up the prime time. We all know it's gonna take another 30min to solve technical issues.

What kind of bugs do you expect to see?

Any hints on what the codes did? ;D I'm sure we're all curious.

Pathetic. I dare you to try it. Just try making a reasoned argument. We promise not to laugh...

Here are a couple of points for you to try to counter:

Prowler AP turret is twice as effective against infantry.

Prowler AP turret has highest potential DPS.

Prowler is the fastest tank.

Start from there and maybe you'll learn to have civilised discussion...

Still more useful than lockdown (more power and speed is better than more power and locked to the ground) and a shield that makes you a blind trashcan. You assume that you will always be fired back upon when you turn your ZOE on, which is not true. As far as I've read, the final tier of ZOE will make you receive the same damage as you used to pre-nerf, and that amount was so small than no one bothered to turn the ZOE off while in combat. You're still the most mobile MAX with the smallest hitbox. I promise you, ZOE MAXES will still be very frequent on the battlefield.

I'm gonna log in early in the morning and kill ALL the snowmen!

No one should be commenting on the quality and balance of the patch until they have played for at least 8 hours, at LEAST, better to get like 16-20 hours to get a feel for all of the nuances and how each change interacts with the other changes.

People are far too entitled on these forums, thinking that their opinions and preferences are worth much more than everyone elses. If you do not like something you have read in the patch notes, the best response would be something along the lines of, "I don't understand why they made this change, I do not believe it was warranted, but I will see how it goes when I get the chance to try it out on LIVE and then come back with some comments"

I haven't played this game in what feels like forever, but this looks promising.

Must... install... game.

Engie turrets? Easy.
NC and VS c an just snipe em with the Phoenix/Lancer.
TR can just eat it, as they have been FAR too powerful for too long.
(Remember the INSANE power of the Striker and Vulcan before they were corrected? Yeah, the Striker is a bit weak now, but I feel it was deserved.)

Well then, at least I am vindicated.

Two words.

Test. Server.

Paragraphs mate!

Anyway, let me explain then. It is not about number of players. Get that right first. It is about players in vehicles (MBTs, lets say) vs players on foot (infantry). Players in vehicles have superior firepower, players on foot have superior numbers. Since MBTs have superior firepower, they just need to hold their line, and advance steadily. Since they are few in numbers however, holding that line will be very difficult if infantry uses their superior numbers.

Have you ever seen what happens when 4-5 heavies fire at the same tank, all together? Or have you ever seen some infantry baiting a tank line so that another can flank behind them and destroy them all pretty much at the same time? This is a team game, CO-ORDINATION is a MUST.

I understand what you are coming from, believe me, but people need to understand this: "stop being selfish". You see some vehicles outside? Why don't you grab a missile launcher? Aircrafts harassing you? Why not get that single-burster you think that is so crap? Because no one else is doing it, am I correct?

Actually, I do not blame anyone but SOE, because they still have major flaws in their game, and instead of focusing on the real problems, they just ignore them and focus on other stuff that are by-products of the real flaws. One of the major problems in the game, if you ask me, allowing everyone to pull a vehicle, for example. Just an example. Second problem is, thinking that combined-arms means mixing everything everywhere. You'd love Planetside 1 for example, where bases belonged to infantry, and infantry alone.

I apologize if I wrote anything that is offending you by the way.