Scattercannons need faster reload time

Ask any experienced NC MAX user and they will tell you that their favorite AI weapon is Hacksaw, or Mattock, or Grinder depending on their playstyle. No one will ever say Scattercannon, because it is inferior. The Scattercannon is not a "bad" weapon, it's a fine starter, and is plenty capable of killing, but for an end game user who has the choice of all weapons, they have absolutely no competitive draw when you have the choice of the other options. The Mattock has its superior range, the Grinder its superior damage per reload, and the Hacksaw its DPS/ease of use. That is why the Scattercannon should have the draw of a faster reload, to make it a competitive option for endgame users.

Currently, the Scattercannons have about a .05s advantage in reload speed for short reload only, certainly not something that one would choose over the advantages of the other options. This gap should be increased, so that the Scattercannons can be the one option which offers a substantial decrease in possibly the most annoying downside of the NC MAX suit, for those who are bothered by it.

Here are the current stats: Short / Long

Scattercannon: 2.945 / 3.8
Mattock: 3 / 3.8
Hacksaw: 3.2 / 4
Grinder: 3.4 / 4.3

Here is an approximation of what I suggest:

Scattercannon: 2.5 / 3.3
Mattock: 3 / 3.8
Hacksaw: 3.2 / 4
Grinder: 3.4 / 4.3

NC max is already the best preforming. So why does it need a buff?

"best preforming"

In what?

Against him, apparently.

Um no

He must really like getting close to people.

Liberating Auraxis one hug at a time.

Be careful, Hugs could hurt infantry players. Hugs would get nerfed .

Isn't it the same for every other starter MAX weapon? And every other starting infantry weapon? All of them are great weapons, but usually specialist weapons are picked over them.

This isn't about whether the NC MAX as a whole needs a buff or not (let's not open that can of worms right now). Bringing a dud weapon up to the level of its alternatives isn't even really a net buff. It's just creating more choices for the user.

Of course, TR's heavy cycler needs a similar treatment. It's a straight downgrade to the Mutilator.

Absolutely not, and thats my line of thinking here. The starter weapons in this game are generally some of the more competitive kit, and even though I personally have most of the weapons worth having across three factions, starter weapons are some of my favorites. They have the advantage of being general use, good handling, fast reloads, or not having the downsides of more specialized weapons. Reliability is the key word. The Scattercannon situation is such that they simply dont have the advantages that the others do, while not really bringing anything desirable to the table. The VS Quasar are actually pretty good. I made a similar thread asking for the M1 Cycler to get a buff as well if you want to look that up.

Free weapons are not something they will be eagar to buff.

And anyway. NC max is probably on the bottom of the things to buff list.

Why don't you take a look at TR first?

M1 Heavy Cycler vs M2 Mutilator

M1 Pro:
- 0.4s faster long reload

M2 Pro:
- 40 more rounds per magazine
- 320 more rounds in reserve
- 50m/s higher velocity

And yes, these are all the differences. The Mutilator is generally not considered the best TR AI arm, but it is a straight upgrade over the default gun.

At least the Scattercannon is more accurate than the Grinder on top of reloading faster than it.

Scattercannon is not bad.

It don't have special niche, but isn't bad on any departement. Second best DPM (after grinders), second best accuracy (after mattocks), best at damage per pellet.

People prefers using niche weapon, but Scattercannon isn't bad.

That's just it, though. It's second best at everything, so it's never the gun you actually want. Mattocks are 100% preferable when range matters, Grinders are 100% preferable when it doesn't.

TBH, all starter AI MAX weapons could use a touch up. Like not having to pay 1k for a second gun when there is a direct upgrade available for 250 certs.

Max AI needs nerfs not buffs.

I heard something about NS HMGs being made available somewhere for maxs don't know how accurate that is though...

In killing NC, what else?

In CQC fights.