People just follow the herd. Most TR would change back to Carv after a few minutes with Saw because they would suddenly start spraying rounds over people heads with Saw while staying on target with Carv. But because they were lied to about Saw they think its some super weapons. Now Phoenix and Shotgun Max weapons are actually almost as good as the hype around them. Every NC is laughing at TR and VS posters who would claim Saw over other better choices.