what is there? a slightly tighter (0.1) stationary ADS cone of fire on the SAW and a 0.1 worse moving ADS one? do you consider being stationary at infiltrator ranges to be a good idea? you're the one who wanted to take it to spreadsheets, i'm just using them. feel free to point out some way in which the CARV isn't as good or better than either of the other two on paper that isn't completely pointless or an equal tradeoff. btw, i already told you how.