[Suggestion] Revamp T16 Rhino

Discussion in 'Heavy Assault' started by Sabreno Carvaroni, Nov 27, 2014.

  1. Sabreno Carvaroni

    IMO T16 Rhino is probably the most bland LMG in TR arsenal so I have one crazy idea: why not make it like TORQ-9? TR doesnt have even a single LMG with higher rate of fire then 750 despite high rate of fire being ES trait. So I propose following changes:
    • Change damage profile to 125\112
    • Increase RoF to 850 or more
    • Increase move ads accuracy to .35 or less
    • Reduce horizontal recoil
    • Up x 3
  2. DatVanuMan

    I like it! Sounds like a nice addition to the Terran LMG arsenal.
    • Up x 1
  3. BobSanders123

    Same goes for our carbines. We have a lot of 750 RPMs and lower, and one 909 RPM with nothing in between to fill the gaps. I've always thought the CARV and the TRAC should have a default RPM of 800.

    But as it stands I don't like the current Rhino so yes, I would like this change.
  4. KnightCole

    T16 should be the TR's long range, highly accurate sniper LMG.

    143@15m-125@75m
    652RpM
    V Recoil: 0.35
    H Recoil: 0.185

    Then give it Compensator

    And buff it's Cof bloom a tiny bit and decrease it's FSM to like 1.5x
  5. Bankrotas

    It's a 143 dmg weapon, there is nowhere better to go with bloom than 143/0.05 bloom. It is absolute best bloom per damage standart.
  6. KnightCole


    WHo says lol? That is the standard max SoE wants to go with, but a specialist gun like the T16, which would be made for long range, gets a smidge above....at 0.0425 or something.
  7. Sabreno Carvaroni

    The thing is that Rhino is almost identical to Bull (and both of them are very close to NS-15M2), Bull even have higher bullet velocity so If I wanted to shoot at some distant target I would rather use Bull.
    And NONE of the weapons in the game (to be precise, NS-7 PDW and TRAP have, making them an exception in their respected categories, but LMGs\AR\Carbines - none of them do) have minimum damage distance of 15m by default without applying soft point ammo, making Rhino a special snowflake in this department is just asking for trouble and is not particularly logic for purposes of long range engagements - it would drop to lower tier of shot to kill hierarchy past 15m and there is no real benefit vs target past that distance. Even if such change would occur it literally would change nothing in killing potential of distant targets, shots required to kill someone will remain the same.
    And Rhino doesnt even need a compensator, it have very little vertical recoil for such RoF.
    And about "T16 should be the TR's long range, highly accurate sniper LMG" sounds more like TMG-50. Rhino is an a category of sidegrades that trade of DPS for easier handling with extra velocity for more consistent damage, not in a long range weapon category. Not that said benefits not helping with longer ranges, but that is not exactly the point of a trade of.

    Same thing as with 15m minimum damage. No guns in the game have lower bloom with this damage profile and such thing would make it uneven in comparison to same damage profile LMGs. Even TORQ-9, LYNX, GD-7F, Serpent VE92 doesn't have lower bloom despite their insane RoF. If such a change would occur then SOE need to change bloom for all the guns with same damage/RoF profile to smooth things out. That seems somewhat reasonable for high RoF guns, not that they are very inaccurate to begin with tho.
  8. MiniSentrygun

    Just give Rhino the Compensator....
  9. Eternaloptimist

    Rhino is one of my favourite guns just as it is - not least because it is surprisingly accurate at longer ranges. Maybe that is due to the small CoF - though I never knew that before I read these posts. I only moved on to other TR guns for the directive and will be going back to it. I don't think it needs to be turned into an uber weapon. That said - I got mine free as a reward for answering the questionnaire. If you buy it I think it is quite expensive? not sure I would have discovered it if I had to pay out certs or SC. I have to agree with Sabreno though....the Bull seems to perform better in certain circumstances due to higher bullet velocity. But only having three reloads is a bit of a bummer on occasion.
  10. vsae

    I'm up for Rhino being TORQ LMG. Awesome idea.
  11. Sabreno Carvaroni

    TORQ-9 is pretty much identical to stock assault rifle T1 Cycler or even stock LMG T9 Carv in terms of DPS and TTK, maybe needing to reload more frequently due to lower damage per magazine and more controlable recoil as a bonus. However in doesn't have lower CoF bloom per shot so it is less accurate if you shoot it full auto. Rhino by the way have lower DPS and TTK then these guns.

    Pretty much every single gun rewarded for completing questionnaire costs 250 certs each.

    I'm making such suggestion due to Higby mentioning on twitch that Rhino could use some love or tweaking, and TR already have 2 almost identical LMGs that are almost a sidegrades of NS LMG. Other factions have their guns with such stats represented with 1 model per faction(EM1 for NC and VX29 Polaris for VS), TR for some reason have 2. For me it's a bummer since there is little variety in LMGs that TR have. Plus we don't quite have any unique LMGs in term of stats, and I don't consider chaingun an LMG.
  12. IberianHusky

    Yes please! I want a reason to auraximate something other than the NS-15m to get my Butcher.