[Suggestion] Remove Engineer class or give it something fun.

I enjoy all of the classes pretty much, except for engineer. Yes you get a carbine and unlimited ammo but thats just it, you're an ammo/repair bot most of the time.

I played dark age of camelot for a long time and some classes are used as buff bots and thats what playing an engineer feels like.

If you're gonna keep the class at least recognize that they are usually toward the back of the fight, and give them access to assault rifles. Otherwise just make the repair tool and ammo pack class agnostic.

The reason most people are ammo starved is because theres hardly ever an engineer around because they aren't fun to play. Back-line support troops that can't reach anything with their mid-range weapons.
And when they are around they're with a vehicle jumping out to squeeze out an ammo pack.
The turrets are dumb too. They provide no protection from flak damage or sniper headshots.

Honestly I think at their current boring state they'd be better off being removed.
To make them more useful in combat, access to AR's and scout rifles would help complement their back-lines role.
That would at least make them less boring to play.

Oh yeah and especially when there are maxes around that keep getting shot and constantly are spamming you for repairs. How about a repair option that doesn't require them to babysit. Like perhaps a repair over time dart. You shoot a max with it and as long as they stay out of combat it'll repair them, and you can go do other things that are way less boring.

And maybe have your ammo packs also repair friendly maxes like 1% per second so you can go shoot things instead of being the repair *****.

The class just isn't fun.

Step 1. Cert into AT mines.
Step 2. Designate all enemy ground vehicles as End Zones.
Step 3. Designate yourself as a Receiver.
Step 4. Play football.
Step 5. ???
Step 6. Profit!

Then don't play it. Holy balls what an easy fix.

Hoki, the engy gets more explosives than any other class. Explosions are fun.

Mines, C4, stickies, hand grenades, infinate UGL.

What makes a good demoman?

*dumbfounded*

you can't be serious

Terry! I linked his stream yesterday hoping to get more viewers. Love watching this guy play. Great pilot and friendly too.

This is absolutely ridiculous. There's like a bajillion enginners running around and why? Because they have utilities that are hella useful for everything. Do you love piloting? Be an engineer! You love lone wolfing with a sunderer then you'll need a repair tool. Those heavy infantry pushes tend to have max units, who's gonna repair them and give them ammo?

Ammo.

Ammo.

Ammo!

Personally, I find engineer a bit boring on foot as well. The turret's cute, but not outstanding. I'd really love a better primary weapon, at least.

But, that said, I see Engineer as also being the 'pilot' class, and then it's fine.

now i have in my mind an engineer doing a dunk with an AT mine on a tank with a lot of ennemy trying to grab him, all of that in slow motion.

I love playing engineer, I get the Jaguar which is a beast and I get mines that blow stuff up 2 hours after I place them, plus I can repair stuff and get free xp. Whats wrong with Engineer's again? Because I enjoy playing them.

Id like for some point two maned crews of deploy able weapons, something aking to a howitzer. Having 1 person gives extremely slow reload speed however two people increases it to a point where it can be effective.

I have to play it when nobody else is dropping ammo boxes. It is a vital class nobody would debate that, its just boring as ****. You won't see anyone make a montage video with repairs and dropping ammo boxes, cause it aint fun or exciting.

Combat medic, run around, shoot everything up, your "support" role puts you in the thick of it, rezzing allies with enemies right around the corner. (medtool 6 speed makes this possible) Combat medic is actually fun even when performing the support role.

Heavy assault, what is there to say? Fun as hell, get up in infantry grills, get up in TANK grills. They go balls deep like its their job. (cause it is!)

Infiltrator. Headshots are always satisfying. Scout rifles make you good up close or long range. Relying on surprise + pistols to perform aggressive recon is pretty exciting and fun. Knife + silenced pistol headshots can wipe out an entire team without anyone knowing it and its satisfying as hell.

Max needs a lot of work and is kind of in the same boat as engineer but being the only infantry class that can kill enemy air makes it satisfying at times. AA ***** duty isn't as boring as repair + ammo ***** duty.

Engineer gets to.. drop ammo for all the other fun classes! yay

Engineers are probably the best vehicle drivers as well... considering they can fix the holes D:

Yes like I said vital but boring. Hell they're even overpowered in some situations but they're still boring.

You're trolling right? I'm calling troll on this.

Play something else if you don't like engi.

We're done here.

Is the OP nuts? Engie is a gas; lots of explosive options if certed. Plus, throw em into a vehicle and they bring the pain. And no class can rake in the certs quite like the engie; it's a bonifide cert pinyata.

Willin to bet that the top killer in PS2 is engie or HA.

How is decimating enemy tanks boring? *skeptical*

protip.........your ACE turret can be transformed into an ACE ammo crate by pressing the fire mode selector button, it is certed all the way to level 3 by stock default.......this way you can stock up on explosives and dish out ammo still with a larger radius and time span than the stock crate......not many engies are aware of this.

Engineer gets to throw explosives everywhere UGL+ammo pack, carry enough c4 to ruin everything for everyone around them, or plant a ton of mines and then play "Cat and Mouse and Placed Explosive Charge".

And on top of that they have the ability to repair friendly vehicles and equiptment, AND they have the ability to get to areas that no other class bar the LA can get to by using the turret as a stepping stool.

Engy is boring if you play it with no imagination, sure, but the same is true of every class.

Engineer is the class you play if you want to lone wolf ESF and rack up lots of XP and kills.

* Points for rocket spam? Tick
* Points for more rocket spam? Tick
* Points for repairing your own plane? Tick

Check out any of the "top players" with 3:1 or greater k/d and you'll notice they all have engineer as their most played class.

I think you're using the class wrong!