Re: Server Merge - time to quit the TR?

Discussion in 'PlanetSide 2 Gameplay Discussion' started by Frostiken, Jun 22, 2014.

  1. Axehilt

    I dunno, I've put a fair chunk of time into Waterson NC and from that perspective yeah I've seen Waterson VS play pretty badly, but it's not as badly as Matth TR. Matth TR are even worse than Connery TR back in the day (who were terrible strategically, but at least had enough good players to overcome it; they'd choose the wrong 50/50 fight, but goddamnit they'd have a good chance of winning that fight!)
  2. DQCraze

    It won't help, he spent the whole weekend running from the vs zerg which had 60% server pop at times. I played TR for the last week and it was miserable. I feel for the TR on Matherson, they were getting smashed to oblivion and was ridiculous.

    I mean both VS and NC were fighting side by side at the TR warp gate with 1 hot spot on the map between the two. TR weapons suck balls in comparison to the other two factions. It's a joke really, there is one good weapon in the TR arsenal and that's the Mossi. I was able to cert it up and went on some good runs. Between getting zerged by both factions non stop and having low resources almost all weekend it made for a terrible gaming experience. Really I don't know how you guys do it. Much Respect for sticking it out. Hopefully you guys will get some help, I see a lot if players moving on if you dont.
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  3. Epic High Five


    The VS own the night, but during primetime it's anybody's game, and this is with the VS getting a boost from the fact that they're literally the only faction able to muster up the effort to participate in the horrible slog that is global alerts.

    Anybody who actually plays pretty regularly will confirm this. Even just this weekend the NC dunked all over the TR/VS pretty much the entire time during extended prime time hours, and who cares what happens during an alert with a TOTAL of 200 participants like at 4am?


    He'll gut functional outfits for players to - to pull a totally random example out here - dump into Allatum to get farmed for an hour in a hopeless situation while his faction loses the territory alert in progress during this entire thing, and he will do this every night
  4. Epic High Five


    First off, TR guns are bananas good. From the CARV to the TORQ they outclass the VS in almost every way, inasfar as this is possible in a game where the difference between best and worst TTK is like 0.2 seconds

    Secondly, a lot of the VS/NC remember the BCP hellzerg days and we have no intention of going back to fights with the TR being 1-12 or us against 6 platoons in a single hex (one of his favorite tactics was blobbing so many people together that they wouldn't render until they were right up close to you). I see TR swooning over the guy and I put out the ATRA alarm. I'm sorry if it sucks but it's for the good of the server.

    Also when you guys were being dogpiled at the TR warpgate there was a huge line of fights at and around Crimson Bluff between the VS and NC. You weren't warpgated because you were being ganged up on, you were warpgated because You'd lose 2 bases for every 1 you gained because pop dumps don't work
  5. footjam

    I play all 3 factions on Mattherson, I log on to whichever has the lowest pop at the play screen.

    All weekend, the VS and TR sat around 30-31% with the NC around 38-40%. I think a lot of you have rose colored glasses about your factions.

    Mattherson VS are incredibly coordinated when the outfit leaders work together. Even with a smaller force, putting coordinated tryhards (not an insult) on your tech plant cap will turn the tied. Its more than just drop on the roof, they will send people to the gens, the roof and the balcony. Outside of after-hours play, the VS rarely have a pop advantage. However, the TR and NC avoid the VS regardless of alerts. This leaves the VS left to 1 or 2 lanes for the entire continent to jump into. This is where the "zerg" comes from, it has members of every outfit because it is the only place the VS can fight. Also, VS care about alerts unlike the NC and TR on Mattherson. They need more people who don't care about stats, also less maxes and magrider spam.

    Mattherson NC are a good force but they have a cancer in command chat, Wisdomcube, with his constant insults is just a piece of garbage. Seriously, it took me 2 minutes before he went on ignore, dont care about his fragging he is just a spoiled *******. IF the NC can work together, they will steam roll the VS and TR because the tryhard VS would rather stat pad then actually have a pitched battle. I have yet to get into a pubbie platoon that had direction beyond "Run to the waypoint". No rides, no spawns, sometimes a beacon. There is also the "If you dont recall to the WG right now, you will be kicked" nonsense. They don't rez or heal and will ******* shoot you to let you know you are their repair-bot. Stew360 is a ******* tool. When I lead a pubbie squad, you can tell people are surprised that we brought a spawn. They need real leadership not whatever the **** you want to call what they have now.

    Mattherson TR are almost always outpopped but they are a formidable force and I enjoy playing my TR the most because you get people that just want to win. They heal and rez. Probably the most well rounded faction on mattherson but lack the numbers to stand up the VS at every lattice junction. The pubbie platoons I have joined are most well organized, more little kids then I usually care for, but rides and spawns do happen. The largest problem I see with the TR is that their answer to everything is pull Prowlers and Mossies. The best way to deal with armor crossing to Indar Ex is sit up on the Tower and pick them off, not chase 1 lightning with 4 prowlers right into their Lancer nest. Also, pull my sundy's.

    This is how I see Mattherson, I have been playing since beta. I hope Waterson brings the VS less Rambos and more troops. The NC get some leadership that has people skills and the TR just get more bodies that want to win instead of trying to cert farm.
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  6. Silver Fox

    From what I've seen, BCP really reminds me of an old platoon sergeant at my first duty station. Totally abusive and completely destroyed unit cohesion, but he had a cult following because anyone in his platoon could do anything they wanted - if you worshiped him he would protect you.

    People like him are a cancer to any community.
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  7. Ronin Oni

    I don't want BCP to come back...

    to hell with that bigoted racist *****.

    Oh, did I break ToS by naming and shaming a (non)member? Well too bad, cause that **** does nothing but berate people and yell obscenities.

    If he comes back TR may have more players, but we'll lose more GOOD players who just get sick of his crap. I know I won't play TR alongside that tosh.... and I'm eagerly awaiting playing with the Matherson TR.

    Total Bisquit we could take for a pop increase.... he's no shining beacon either, but at least he's not a complete *****.
  8. Epic High Five


    This is a good assessment. As an NC who is in command most every night I'd like to add that Wisdomcube has been quite well-behaved lately and has been able to make contributions to the overall flow of battle by not being so damn abrasive. Kudos, please don't go on a rampage and make me look like an idiot tonight

    Stew360 is in the midst of some kind of psychological breakdown. Best to block him until he gets his ducks in a row because he's like Wisdomcube and BCP all rolled up into one at this point.
  9. Rhumald

    Thought I'd follow up with a commenht here. I'm getting ever closer to BR 100 on my NC. As it turns out, I'vr always had both a TR and VS character on Matterson, just for testing purposes, which used to all be on SolTech.

    My main TR was matterson, deleted that when we merged with it. Main VS was on Watterson... you can guess what I've done with that (I do more testing that I do cross faction play, they didn't go very far).

    That all said, give it two weeks, if we don't see some TR factions/players coming back by Hossin's draw, I, among others I know, have nothing against switching just to help balance battles, though I'll still main my NC until I hit 100.
  10. Kaktwox

    He is a bigoted homophobic racist. Some players may want to partake in the spectacle that is TE but it is the more mature players that don't want anythings to do with him.
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  11. Mustarde


    I hate to break it to you, but you are just over halfway there... :(
  12. Ronin Oni

    Yeah, my Matherson NC can't wait to fly alongside PREY..

    Number 2 cause of my Mosquito's deaths on Waterson. (#1 obviously being trees)
  13. Epic High Five


    And I can't wait to have TIW and PREY fleshing out our vehicle ranks! We're an infantry heavy server to a huge degree haha
  14. LIKE A BOSS!

    Why is Planetside 2 the only MMO that calls pubs "pubies"? Literally every other MMO I play calls them pubs : /.
  15. LIKE A BOSS!

    My c4 will be ready.
  16. footjam


    I have called them nubs for decades but that is a carry over from the military. N U B - Non Useful Body. In BF42, they where PUG's or puggers for pick up groups. In WoW they where pubbies that formed PUGs.
  17. SavageBacon

    Why? So you can overpop TR hexes more than you guys already do? Because I'm pretty certain those number won't be thrown at the VS borders.
  18. Axehilt

    I wish! One of the biggest problems with Mattherson TR is the abundance of infantry derplings willing to create spawncamp after spawncamp (as the camped side, by insisting on repeatedly spawning as infantry.)

    If they were more prone to pulling vehicles, they'd be a lot better off.
  19. footjam

    We must not play at the same time or even on the same cont. Go to any Indar base where the TR can pull prowlers and the instant it caps, there is a train of prowlers clogging the road and rolling single file into a choke point only to be destroyed by AV.
  20. Epic High Five


    Check my stats yo, I fight VS a clear majority of the time and I lead an outfit most nights. I'm not alone either. Problem is most fights with TR involve dealing with a giant hellzerg which means, guess what, we have to bring our own hellzerg. Otherwise I tend to stick to the VS front because those fights don't evaporate like TR ones do