PTS Magrider changes

• +100 damage increase on AP cannon
• Possible elevation increase on main gun (hard to measure)

No change to AP velocity or trajectory. No change to magburn.

Not sure that +100 damage will increase TTK on anything. Elevation increase is welcome.

If you notice any other changes, please post here.

There my be a difference, but on PTS its hard to tell atm since they buggered up the armor values.

although any buff is welcome i think i would rather have magriders projectile velocity increased to be in line with the other MBT's
still at least they recognize that mags were a little UP

(you would like it though wouldnt you deth? as u always use the AP cannon)

Why aren't these threads in the PTS discussion section?

I hope they will give a big buff to magburn.

To inform the people here who don't care about the PTS, not even to visit it's section.

If people don't care enough to check the *PLAYER REQUESTED* test server for changes relevant to them they should really just suck it up when the changes come down the pipe. You can't complain that devs don't listen to the community then avoid playtesting when it is asked for.

It means that the AP PTS Magrider has a higher DPS (502) than the AP Vanguard (500)
While the Live Magrider had a DPS of 476.

It's quite a big increase IMO

I'd be happier if they had kept or even lowered the damage but made the AP gun have a reasonable projectile speed. It's pretty limp, not quite original viper level, but it's pretty paltry for engaging armor in ranges you'd want to be.

In other news:
The have a +75 damage buff to Titan AP.

I have seen that one. It's cute.

Still waiting on the velocity pass...

Well, 2 DPS isnt all that much of a difference. The Van still has its "lol****no" armor, and dat shield.

I believe this is because of the nanoweave change, they said they had to adjust explosive damage to compensate for it becoming a resist.

No bueno then.

Vanguard gets the highest Alpha Strike damage, and Prowler gets the highest total damage when all shots connect.

If Magriders eclipse the Vanny in damage per shot they are breaking into the NC's land of operation.

Why? It's already sort of amazing.

Really the only problem is that the value is too back-loaded. There's a big difference between rank 1 and rank 5 of the unlock, and the amount of value you get from the higher ranks scales up faster than the value you get from lower ranks. But Magburner isn't alone in this. Really the backloaded problem affects the majority of unlocks in the game. It would be better if the majority of value of any given unlock was gained at ranks 1-3, so that the difference between a new player and a veteran isn't as extreme (since the veteran already has a massive advantage to begin with.) Vertical progression is terrible for a competitive game.

As for the thread in general, it's interesting that they're buffing the Mag since it's a pretty capable tank already. In the last couple days there was a thread about Magriders being underpowered, so yesterday I pulled one and went on this killstreak. Although to be fair, even though I survived for that entire unbroken killstreak it's something like 3 different Magriders (one a genuine death, one continent-switch) and a Scythe. But I still have a hard time feeling like the Magrider really needs a buff, given how much performance I see out of my mags.

Less damage increase, more velocity - but not pre nerf sniper tank style. Turret elevation did need a bit of a buff; as long as its in line with the other tanks its no big deal.

Did you even listen to what i say?
Magrider doesn't deal higher damage per shot, Vanguard still has the highest damage per shot of all tanks in this game.
On PTS Vangaurd has the highest damage per shot (2000) but the lowest DPS of all tanks.
Also, don't forget that the DPS against a Vanguard is noticeably lower with their armor ratings.

Edit: ALL AP tanks have gotten a damage buff, Magrider is again the lowest DPS tank in the game.