..... I can't tell if you're serious, but this would explain why you're coming up with wild assumptions. You don't even know what's going on with the game you're playing. I'm not gonna bother sifting through thousands of updates because you forgot the game has a past. The directive LMGs have all been tweaked multiple times. Here's a nice little visual comparison between the "old" (which had itself been a revamp due to high recoil issues) and the "new". oh hey, another one from an old friend: Oh wait, you don't like videos right. Luckily, the guy linked the day of the tweaks in his video. https://forums.daybreakgames.com/ps2/index.php?threads/hotfix-2-25.215540/ Oh, my bad, you don't like clicking links. "GODSAW has had the recoil penalty from High Velocity Ammo removed" Hopefully that's a bit more clear for you, you lemme know if there's something you don't understand. As for the Gauss saw, they "recently" added forward grip as default for it - the forward grip reduces recoil. If you don't remember, you can ask any player.