Frankly i have posted about this before as have others, however planetside 2 has one of the worst forum communities for recognizing bug issues. Since my last post i have done more to test bullets and have found even more broken issues with them. First for people new to the issue here is why they are broken: Bullets seem to explode on engineers regardless of underside or motion contact. Point being you can drop bullets on top on non moving engineers and they will explode, you can even drop a bullet on a flying/hovering aircraft and it will explode. In any FPS this would be consider a bug including Planetside 1. Now the new issue. Nanoweave armor does not protect against bullets. If you read the cert description in game it states that "Damage from impacts striking the engineer from a bullet will be reduced". However because bullets are broken they will be hitting engineers from above, to the front/back, and to the sides. I have tested armor on a engineer against a deployed sunderer when taking damage from bullets. Armor with the first unlock did not protect the engineer from destruction when the bullet was placed on top, front/rear, or at the side, Smart game play however did. Point being bullets are so broken that even armor is ineffective. Well just use smart game play then? Sure that works for sunderers however engineers cannot get access to front/rear/side/top armor all at once. Even more so planes cannot get access to any form of armor nor bullet guard even if it countered it properly. To sum up the issues here are the previous examples of the broken features of bullets + new issues. 1. Bullets can be used to kill engineers 2. Bullets can be used to kill ESF, Galaxies, and Liberators while they are in flight hundreds of feet off the ground. 3. Bullets can be used to kill infantry when standing near idle vehicles. 4. Bullets remove the purpose of Anti-Tank Mines, indeed bullets due to their broken nature can be used in every situation Anti-Tank Mines can without having to rely on a detonator. +5. Engineers are unable to effectively counter bullets when compared to smart game play in their broken state +6 Planes have no effective protection from bullets even while in the air. While i understand this thread will attract a massive horde of flamers and trolls claiming that this is all acceptable due to the games sci fi setting ((even though they worked properly in planetside 1 which has the same setting)). Truth is this forum community will be accepting of any broken feature so long as it can be actively exploited by a party. For example during the last days of the beta the Magrider lost the ability to turn right and left, when people made bug threads about it they were flamed by others calling it a fair balancing tweak. There are a hundred more examples like that. To put it bluntly this thread is a massive wall of text about whether or not bullets are broken. Rather its informing concerned or unaware players of the exploits currently used for them and listing possible counters if any until the Dev's have time to address and patch the issue. Please keep flaming/trolling to a minimum. Edit: I have also never found any section in the game content that states bullets work on engineers running at you. Furthermore if they do i have been unable to identify the way to stop the engineer since it does not seem to rely on motion as most bullets do. So far my research has found that this has been made up or assumed by a number of players based on an inaccurate wiki post. Thank you for reading!
A clear case for the OP nature of the Bullet! Since my Engineer is clearly unequipped to handle this kind of torment, can I swap out my primary weapon and simply strap the AT mines to my Engineer's body? Thus upon my inevitable death via bullet my dead body will fall on the mines (Yes, that's right, using the pressure of my limp, dead body) blowing myself sky high. Alternatively, this could also be used to sprint into the side of an enemy vehicle, where the pressure of my body colliding against your vehicle would set off the mines. Let's not forget that if said mines were strapped to me I could also skydive out of a plane and destroy whatever I land upon, even other enemy aircraft (because the pressure of my body against the plane would make it explode, in case you didn't catch that). Ohhhh yeahhhhhh
Some people think they can outsmart me. Maybe. Maybe. I've yet to meet one to meet one that can outsmart bullet.
Totally agree. Bullets are way too OP. I say we just remove them and replace them with nerf darts, or we can just point our fingers at each other and yell "Bang, you're dead!".
Oh man, tell me about it. I've gotten accused of hacking every day this week so far because of bullets. My bullets just keep hitting people and I don't know why!
UGH! Of course you Vanu would be complaining about bullets! I bet you get your way, too, since all the devs play VS.
Nerf bullets and rockets. Energy weapons are fine where they are. Bullets keep killing me without even touching me! Energy weapons have to actually shred through an enemy several times to do that! Make bullets work the same way as my battery-powered weapons, or I WILL QUIT!
I find it disturbing some people actually thought this was a serious post and not mimicking all of the QQ.
PS2 would be so much better if bullets were removed and we just fought hand-to-hand, as GOD intended.
