[Guide] Planet Side 2 is pay to win

Discussion in 'PlanetSide 2 Gameplay Discussion' started by CrazyFrog, Mar 10, 2016.

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  1. FateJH

    You can't say a game is "pay2win" by being strict about the definition of payment but flimsy about the defintion of winning, and then ignoring whether or not the two ideas exist in a causal relationship. This is not a one-out-of-three's not bad kind of situation.

    In that case, I suppose the problem is more accessibility and, maybe, asset retention. In PlanetSide, everything is accessible from the same Depot as long as you can afford it one way or another and, after you have it once, it's always available from a terminal somewhere.
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  2. Reclaimer77

    No you've simply changed the definition of "pay to win".

    The original "pay to win" model was players were UNABLE to achieve something that gave a clear advantage without paying for it. Leaving the "free" players at a clear disadvantage.

    That is NOT the case with Planetside 2 and never has been.

    Politely shut up and go back to some Playstation forum please. The Bernie Sanders act isn't working here. We donate our money to this game because we choose to, not because we HAVE to.
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  3. Azawarau

  4. Azawarau

    This goes for you too if youre implying what i think youre implying about Bernie
  5. ObiVanuKenobi

    Buying a different weapon or pink camo won't make you better at the game and doesn't give you that much of an advantage. A good player would wreck you even in full stock gear.
    Ok it's p2w by that 0 subs 33 views guys definition. And? Even the most played game in 2015 (league of legends) has boosts that allow you to acquire champions faster. Do people complain it's pay to win? No, because skill matters waaay more and the advantage is almost non-existent. Same goes for Planetside.
    I would understand p2w crying if there were damage boosts or something like that which can't be bought with certs, but crying about slightly faster cert gain? Really?
  6. Seagulkawkaw


    Whats the point of this post? Are you trying to argue semantics, or are you legit bothered by the way DBG manages micro-transactions/membership and free to play vs paying player or is this just a troll post?

    Personally I have my grips with DBG, but the way they've handled Free to play isn't one of those gripes. When I compare PS2 to other free to play games I'd say they have one of the better payment models as far as avoiding giving in game advantages to people who spend money on the game.

    My current character is entirely free to play, no boosts, no membership, no money based weapon purchases etc and from the inception I've had no issue stomping people with the default equipment, and no issue developing my character to do different things. The starting weapons are almost all competitive options, and there are plenty of cheap alternatives for most weapons (MSW-R=arguably best LMG in the game at least for 1v1 engagements for like 250certs, prior to patch was probably the VS Orion which was the free default VS LMG).
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  7. TheFlamingLemon

    The only pay to win aspect is the increase in resources for those who have memberships and boosts, which allows them to pull armor and maxes more frequently. I've, regrettably, never paid a dime, and I definitely feel that I'm competitive with players that do pay. Any pay to win aspect, in my experience, doesn't extend that far.
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  8. Reclaimer77

    Right back at ya :p

    [IMG]
  9. CrazyFrog

    pelojian its not my opinion its facts,your logic is like saying 2+2 = 10 I cant change whats right infront of you.

    planet side 2 is pay to win its not my opinion its the truth

    can you unlock things early with real money = yes
    can you buy advantages in planet side 2 = yes
    is convenience an advantage = in this case yes
    is planet side 2 pay to win = yes



    sorry but its not my opinion its facts,if you don't believe me open up the cash shop.
  10. Nejisaurus


    Not to exacerbate politics here, but anyone who supports Bernie needs to look at his Tax proposal. Hint: Its bat**** crazy.
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  11. Azawarau

    Ok youve just proven you dont understand

    Skype me for a lecture in politics

    Azawarau is my skype and 안차 is my current name

    Im the siamese cat face



    Im not the one doing it

    I just replied to the oen that did
  12. Nejisaurus

    Wait so you're a cat?
  13. Reclaimer77

    Uhh I'm old enough to remember Reagan being in office. I seriously doubt there is anything about politics you can "lecture" me on.

    And even if there was, no offense, but I have way better things to do with my time then jump onto Skype with a stranger from the internet. Unless you're a sexy woman with webcam, of course.
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  14. Diggsano

    Planetside2 is PAY TO PROGRESS, not pay to win.
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  15. Reclaimer77

    Azawarau doesn't pay taxes, that's the thing.

    Progressive ideas sound great until you realize YOU are the one who will end up paying for them.
  16. Azawarau

    If it werent for the limited forum avatars id be a forum cat like every other forum

    Also since im here

    @OP

    Pay2win would mean a significant advantage that free players cant get

    Most guns are a side grade to other guns and after a certain base set up paying for things doesnt matter

    Though i will say that there is one OP aspect

    Horns are OP. The level of intimidation and frustration from listening to Ride of the Valkyrie play while youre shooting at this useless mocking machine that does nothing but say "You can kill me any time but im gonna mock you anyways"

    Broken

    Do you have anything to abse this claim on or are you just showing that you dont understand anything even more than previously thought?

    I do pay taxes and if taxes were to increase i would support it

    I dont recognize as a democrat if youre wondering

    We really need that talk
  17. Reclaimer77

    It seemed like you were supporting Bernie. Pardon me if you weren't. If you were, then you need to understand that you are not very smart and you are in NO position to lecture anyone on anything.
  18. FateJH

    BAN ON POLITICS
  19. Danath

    From the video
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  20. Azawarau

    You dont know my age and youre making claims. I enjoy politics and i have ever since i was a kid. I remember fighting with my brother and sisters at 9 because i wanted to watch the news and they wanted to watch Saturday morning cartoons.

    Im not a sexy woman but if itll get you to talk to me i can pretend to be

    Just for you
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