As noted in the title, due to recent increase in minimum system requirements, i am no longer able to play the game properly due to input lag, and large fps drops. Like many others, the game was running well in the past, but performance have gradually decreased until it's become bordering on unplayable. I've decided to cancel my membership, since there's no reason to be subscribed to a game i can't play. However, if i become able to play the game again in the future, by getting a very powerful computer, or if the game gets more optimized, i'll definitely renew my membership.
I'm sorry about your decision to leave the game. We have dedicated tech support reps that will be more than happy to assist you with your performance issues but also know that your account will remain in tact until you decide to play the game again.
i have a up medium pc . but the game use huge memory source plus cpu and worst the lagg issue . the game make pc run maximum even in lowest settings . i gave up this game a month ago . even made a thread . none cared . like i said , i dont want to fry my pc for a unfinished game .
This game is very unfinished spec and game play wise, Soe is better scraping planetside 2 and rework the engine and release it again for better and less laggier game play many Teams have done this...hint the Rust team. But this can only happen if Soe had time and more money to expense on.
I would love to stay since i still like the game, i'm just unable play it properly. My performance issues are the same as many others, so i think if you find a solution to this, then it would help many others as well. I get a good 60 fps when there's not a lot of players around. But when the area i'm in becomes more populated, it starts dropping to 40-30. The fps would be bearable if it wasn't for the mouse delay i start getting as well, which takes the enjoyment of infantry play away because you can't hit anything, due to your effective reaction time being increased by the game. In large battles, the fps falls all the way down to around 20 with even more mouse delay. There can also be short moments where it locks up and drops to around 5-2 fps, and those moments often happen when you're in an engagement with an enemy. The amount of time you've been in the game also seems to be a factor for how much the fps drops, so it's not only the population. I've turned all my settings down to the lowest possible. My settings: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19-qB0Xc5EzGlv91fJp9elFstj1o19OLslMpFsuIh9Fk/edit?usp=sharing My specs: CPU: Intel Core i7-3630QM Ivy Bridge - 64 bit RAM: 6144 MBytes PC12800 DDR3 Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GT 730M, 4095 MB Driver: NVIDIA GeForce 337.88 Driver WHQL OS: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (x64) Build 9600 I hope my feedback helps in working out the problems. I'm sure other people can provide symptoms similar to mine. I would love to see this get fixed so i can keep playing, and more people can start to play the game in the future. But as it is now, it's out of my hands.
Tbh that laptop should be able to play this game better than 2-5 fps. The slowest component is ofc the GT 730M which is a very low end GPU, but still if you just turned down the in game graphic settings enough it should be possible. If I'm not mistaken the 730M is faster than a 280M and about the same as a 460M which are both set to meet minimum requirements. Are you having trouble with the laptop overheating perhaps? - causing it to slow down.
That system should be able to handle PS2 without much problem. My laptop has similar specs, and with some quick tweaks, it runs beautifully. For the lag Download Nvidia Inspector and click on the wrench to bring up your driver settings. You can either change the global driver settings, or just PS2. Enable Threaded Optimization and set the Max Pre Rendered Frames to 1. Also, disable smoothing and Vsync in the PS2 graphics options. That should help reduce input lag. The sudden FPS drops to 2-5 is likely your laptop throttling, either for energy efficiency or to reduce heat (mine does the same thing). To disable energy efficiency throttling, download a program called Throttlestop and run it before you launch PS2. You can also work around heat based throttling using Nvidia Inspector. Most laptops throttle when they hit 84c, so in Nvidia Inspector, set the Maximum Framerate option to 80c. This will lock your framerate so you don't exceed 80c, while preventing thermal throttling. Also, to give your computer more thermal headroom, set PS2 to the lowest video settings, and increase each setting one at a time until you find a comfortable balance between graphics and framerate.
You're welcome Also, I'm not sure if this'll be of use now, but I wanted to include a download link for Nvidia Inspector and a quick screenshot to guide you on the settings. (I made the previous post with my cell phone while at work and didn't have immediate access to these resources). http://www.guru3d.com/files_details/nvidia_inspector_download.html Hope it helps
Just out of curiousity, have you tried turning the HUD off? Checked your laptop for malware? If so, with what? Are you actually using the Nvidia GPU or is it auto selecting the wrong one? Whats your laptops cooling policy set to in Windows power options?
I have. When i have suspicion of malware, i usually scan it with several different programs: ClamWin, HiJackThis, McAfee Stinger, Kaspersky TDSSKiller, Spybot - Search & Destroy, Malwarebytes Anti Malware. But i'm certain that's not the reason for this. I also keep my pc tidy, and only have the most necessary programs running in the background. It's set to use the NVidia processor yes. The Power plan i'm using is "High performance" if that's what you mean. It may actually be because of overheating. I'll get into it further down. Just to clarify, i was already using the lowest settings possible as mentioned in my original post, so lowering the graphics further is out of the question. Here's a few of the most relevant lines from my useroptions.ini: MaximumFPS=65 (so the gpu / cpu isn't working more than necessary.) Smoothing=0 VSync=0 ParticleDistanceScale=0.65000 ReduceInputLag=1 MouseRawInput=1 I've set these settings in NVidia Inspector after you mentioned it: Frame Rate Limiter: 80C Maximum pre-rendered frames: 1 Power management mode: Prefer maximum performance Threaded Optimization: On Vertical Sync: Use the 3D application setting I've been monitoring the CPU and GPU temp, while running the game. From i've started the game up, it runs pretty smoothly at around 60 fps, but as the GPU temp got to 80, the frames started dropping, it got down to around 25 fps at one point. So it was still throttling just as much when Frame Rate Limiter was at 80C, except now it happened more gradually. I then tried setting Frame Rate Limiter to 65 FPS, and it actually improved it. I started the game, and had 60 FPS, even in relatively highly populated areas. When the GPU got up to around 95 C i hear the fan ramp up speed, and bring it down to around 92 C again. However after playing for some time and more players show up, i see the CPU core temps get up to around 100C, and it's around that point, the frames start dropping. Though it takes far longer, it eventually also gets down to the 20 fps. The whole time, the GPU was stable at around 90 C. So i think it's not the GPU that's the bottleneck, but the CPU. It seems to be pretty CPU intensive, even at lowest settings. So moving some work from the CPU to the GPU would improve performance in my case. My laptop is set in an open place, on a perforated laptop stand, with an external fan, so it's not because it isn't ventilated properly. Disabling VSync in NVidia Inspector also did a huge difference on input lag. What i would like to know, is what part of the game is so CPU intensive. I noticed it happened around a time when people started firing smoke grenades a lot. But thanks for the help. It's definitely improved. From what i've seen so far, it can run at 60 fps longer and in more places than before, and with no input lag. Though if you play at a highly populated place with lots of effects, you do need to take breaks to let the CPU cool down. Otherwise your fps will keep falling.
The biggest chunk of the CPU bottleneck for everyone in highly populated games is always the net code. The net code is basically what tells your computer where everyone's characters are, where they are shooting, who is killing or being killed, keeping trrack of stats, etc. Unfortunately, its not something GPUs can take care of, at least not until engines start making use of GPGPU coding (basically turning the GPU into a CPU, but that currently is complex and inefficient). There has been some debate that the net code could be "optimized" by making it multithreaded, but its something that nearly all MMOs have been struggling with for the last decade, so obviously its not as simple as turning on the multithreaded switch. To play devil's advocate, if it could be multithreaded, it would cause more heat to be generated by the CPU since more of it is being used, which compounds the issue you are currently facing. My strongest recommendation would be to call the manufacturer of your laptop and ask if opening the laptop to at least see if it needs to be cleaned would void the warranty. Otherwise you might have to get it serviced. There is no reason for it to be running that hot, even for a laptop.
I think it is his router --- he has classic signs that the router is going into DoS attacks and stopping the frame rate out going or incomming. Being shot and dropping frames is a DoS attack on the router - not his PC...!!
It is definitively the temperatures causing this fps drop. It is possible the GPu throttles down at two intervals, first one at 80c then the next one at 95c. The first one im not so sure about, but the 95c is very common, i don't know of any gpu's that would allow you to run above 95c. The performance drop should also be quite drastical. Like a 80% perfromance drop. As soon as it dips below 94/93 c it should bump it up again though, but as you can probably imagine it doesnt take long before it reaches 95c again and the cycle repeats. Your CPU is also quite likely to be throttling down, actually at 100c I'm surprised it hasn't fail-safe shut down already.. Perhaps that is set to 105c. I storngly suggest you improve the cooling for your laptop, those temperatures will eventually kill your laptop. Unscrew all panels you can and blow out any dust you can find. If the warranty is out or you don't care about warranty and you are up for it I can also reccomend changing the thermal paste between the CPU, GPU and respective cooler. If your laptop is mostly stationary you could also just leave the panels off while playing and put the mback on when you need to brign it with you. If yo uare CPU limited i suggest turnig shadows off entirely. Personally I also run without any flora on, not sure if that is on the CPU, but heck I hate having bushes blocking my aim.
The most intensive aspects of the game are: Player position data. The stupid 2D menus and HUD. Those temperatures are also way too hot. Heres why your hardware is melting: https://forums.station.sony.com/ps2...ase-get-rid-of-the-scaleform-ui-menus.186679/ Make sure that you dont have too much antimalware conflicting. One exploit mitigation, one antivirus and malwarebytes is enough. And i tried the game last night after the 200MB patch. The map icons were all bunched together and then the game disappeared with no erroe. I think they broke the game again with the latest patch. Oh well its the steam summer sale and TF2 update.
Hey, at least i can boil a pot of water on it when it gets above 100C. But i'll see if there's dust in it.
It isn't as simple as just taking the cover off and running like that. Lots of parts are integrated into the cover. You basically have to remove the touchpad, keyboard, DVD drive, and so on to get to the motherboard. I've checked the fan. There's practically no dust whatsoever inside, and it runs fine. It's a fairly new laptop as well. I may have a look at reapplying thermal compound in case it was done poorly from the manufacturer. But the only game i have this overheating problem in, is Planetside 2, so it still comes back to PS2 being more CPU intensive than most games.
(Sorry, for the double post, this is basically saying the same as in the previous post. Didn't notice i had already posted that.) If it was the GPU throttling, the fps would start dropping when the GPU temp got to a certain point. But the GPU temp was completely stable at around 90 C, with no fps drops. It was first much later, at the moment the CPU temp hit 100 C that the fps started dropping noticeably from 60 to 50-40. Meanwhile the GPU was still at 90 C. I've checked the fan. There's practically no dust whatsoever inside, and it runs fine. It's a fairly new laptop as well. I may have a look at reapplying thermal compound in case it was done poorly from the manufacturer. But the only game i have this overheating problem in, is Planetside 2, so i believe it still comes back to PS2 being more CPU intensive than most games. Thanks for the suggestion, i would have tried that, but it isn't as simple as just taking the cover off and running like that. Lots of parts are integrated into the cover. You basically have to remove the touchpad, keyboard, DVD drive, and so on to remove the covers. I already have both shadows and flora off, as well as everything else that can be turned off.
Honestly I think you would be better off contacting the manufacturer at this point and see if they can get that laptop serviced. There is no reason for it to hit 100c, and if you come across another CPU intensive program, you'll come across the same issue.
Yeah, i'll try and contact Acer next week. My idle temperature is around 50 C, so it's no problem as long as i don't play PS2. Gonna watch some serversmash Waterson vs Mattherson in the meantime, and maybe play something else.
