New Player Experience

Discussion in 'PlanetSide 2 Gameplay Discussion' started by Bedamax, Apr 24, 2017.

  1. Bedamax

    So, I signed up for PS2 a month and half ago and have played a few hours a day since then. I used to play the original PlanetSide back in the day and managed to get a couple of characters to BR5 and had a lot of fun in the process.

    My experience on PS2 however has been rather frustrating. I have got to BR25 with a miserable K/D ratio of 0.42 and even this is skewed to the upside by one or two lucky Infiltrator kill streaks. Part of the frustration seems to be the VS population mismatch and constantly getting zerged, but even in fairly matched battles, I really have very little luck in getting any kills.

    I've even tried buying some new guns and implants and other upgrades to see if that helps - I've spent around $150 or so which I like to think is supporting the game too so I don't mind too much. I can certainly confirm this is not a play to win game, or at least not in my case!

    As for the aircraft, well I just can't fly them at all. It's hard enough to keep the things in the air let alone engage in any sort of aerial combat.

    Here's my link if you'd like a chuckle at my attempts!
    https://www.planetside2.com/players/#!/5428569415104659633/stats
    Should I keep going, does this get any better or shall I just chalk it up to experience and move on to the next game?
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  2. LordKrelas

    Well you could try medic a bit.
    They help with certs, and if you stay with a VS group, as a medic you'd have allies nearby at least, for the heals.

    But being outnumbered can be a bugger.
    Aircraft also a "what the hell" to fly for most of us.

    So yeah, you should keep trying.
    And yes it does get better: Find an outfit, try the other sides a bit, be a bit creative in fight locations, and it can be a blast.
  3. BrbImAFK

    It does get better, honestly..... the biggest wall facing new players is not certs, or gear, or implants, or weapons, or any of that.... it's experience. There's simply no replacement for it.

    I freely admit to being a bad. I don't have the best aim, nor do I consistently play "smart". I'm perfectly happy to be the first one through the door, even if all I manage to do is absorb bullets, so that other people can take the point. I primarily main medic and engy, and my new alt is currently running a KD (not that I really think that's a super important measure, but it's what you mentioned, so.....) of about 1.4. It's not that I'm better than you - I almost certainly am worse..... I just have a lot more experience than you do.

    So, as noted above, join an outfit. A good one, not some trollfit that just invites absolutely everybody on the server. Get them to train you. Pick somebody (or a couple of somebodies) in that outfit who you consider good at whatever role you've picked for yourself and follow them around like a stalker, learning what they do, when they do it, etc. Every time you die, get into the habit of taking a little time to think about what led up to the death. Did the other dude simply outshoot you? Or did you do something stupid, like run into a room and not check the corners. Did he take you by surprise? If so, how did he do it..... remember that and a) learn to check those places; and b) use the same tricks to your advantage. And so on and so on. It's really important to learn why you died, rather than letting anger or frustration take over.

    Anyway, I've waffled enough. I'm sure you get the picture. Welcome to Planetside! Have fun and happy gaming!
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  4. RockPlanetSide2

    .42 KD ratio is one of 2 things, 1 you just rush in too often and are not paying attention to anything, 2 your computer is just crap.

    I don't think you can actually be that bad overall, so i think you just need to adjust something simple, like stay at medium range.
  5. Bedamax

    Thanks for the feedback to those who replied. Just to address few points

    1. The outfit, obviously this would be an ideal scenario but I tend to find joining an outfit requires a bit more commitment which isn't particularly compatible with my irregular playing times.
    2. Yes my gaming laptop is a couple of years old but over the minimum spec and I've turned all the settings down and it manages okay except for in really big firefights (which I avoid)
    3. I freely admit that I'm not that great at 1v1 gunplay, but even so I'm struggling. Even as a HA with shield engaged I've fired half a clip at someone at close range and seemingly on target, but somehow still missed and died.
    4. It's true I've focused on HA and Infil and I should investigate LA and Medic. It's just that I feel I need to try to get good at one or two particular classes rather than be bad at all of them.
    5. This really isn't intended to be a rant, I'm not really angry with the game and even if I die 10 times in a row I'm pretty good at keeping my cool. But it has to be FUN or there's no point!
  6. velie12


    Not every outfit requires you to play regularly. There are alot of good outfits that accept players that don't play regularly. The problem is there are also alot of bad outfits that just spamvite everyone. But some of those outfits that many people wrongly call 'zergfits'(okay some of them are actually zergfits like DIG) are actually pretty good and have no real requirements to join, and good players that can help you. I dont know on which server you are playing. I could only make suggestions for outfits on cobalt
  7. Zuprize

    I reckon you haven't played many FPS games and I don't mean multiplayer ones.
    My personal advice for you would be to try to work on your accuracy, by your weapons stats I see it's not really good. If you have the patience try installing call of duty MW 3 and play survival mode, it wont make you extraordinary player but will help you keep track on targets as you will always be heavily outnumberd by enemies and as such build better reflexes and also help your accuracy. Later on you will start getting used to the bases in PS 2 and it's general mechanics.
  8. VeryCoolMiller

    The main issue is that in this game you have to learn to pick the "right fight".

    Sometimes the game put you insinde a spawn room , outnumbered by enemies... this is not the fight a new player should take and you should find some friends in game to play with , especially if you want to play infantry. A lone heavy is doomed , a squad of 2 medics 5 heavy and 2 engee is scary.
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  9. CaptCran

    If you want, make a TR character on Emerald, PM me on here, and I'll contact you in game to teach you the basics that span across the three factions.

    "Tell me and I forget.
    Show me and I remember.
    Involve me and I understand."
    ~Confucius~
  10. BartasRS

    I have no idea how it is to be VS on Miller but I had a similar start on Cobalt like a year ago. My advice is to stick to the class you enjoy the most and get better with it and hop on Cert farming class (Engi/Medic) when you feel like it. My K/D first few months was terrible and even now I still suffer from that time even if my daily K/D is averaging around 2 these days. Try to get into Lightning to get the feel of vehicles then you will have a smoother transition to more specialised vehicles. Pulling a Sundy and placing it in a decent spot will get you extra certs too.

    IMO VS is very noob friendly with their no bullet drop weapons, especially for Snipers. Try to get Phaseshift, use Targeting implant and snipe people from safe distance. If you manage that you will get 10-20 killstreaks easily because most people won't bother to walk 300-500 meters just to kill one annoying sniper and it is a great practice in sniping + you won't be limited by ammo.
  11. Eternaloptimist

    Hang on in there! new player experience is brutal but I got through it eventually and now have a great fun time (no, I am not an MLG and I am not a killing machine either). But flying is a major ball ache as the controls are not intuitive (to me anyway) and the sky is dominated by pro players.

    My KD was as low as 0.3 before I started improving (and eventually realised it is not a useful measure). IIRC my avatars range from 0.7 to 1.7 now, after a bit more than two years playing. Not impressive but who cares? Not me.I have played infantry that whole time and am just getting into vehicle play.

    New weapons are not always the answer - getting a handle on burst control and headshots are better as most default weapon are pretty good. Some attachments can help with making weapons more controllable or accurate as well. You know that aiming down sights reduces bullet spread, yes? But at close range hipfiring while moving side to side is a good technique to master. Forward grips and compensators reduce recoil, laser sights on auto weapons make bullets less prone to spreading when hip firing.

    Situational awareness, keeping on the move, maxing your armour, getting some medkit/resto kit/regen implant and running with the gang/watching how they do things are all better ways to get up to speed.

    The dip in VS population on the EU servers comes and goes but it has been inexplicably low recently. Personally, I've always spread my avatars across all factions - then there is always something going on that you can join.
  12. Insignus

    Question: What server/faction are you on? Have you thought about joining an outfit?

    To your questions: It does get better. Planetside 2 is mostly about skill. You can't really "Pay-to-win", and most of the entry level guns that you start with are some of the best-all rounders in the game. I'd recommend you spend some certs on your support abilities (Medic, Engineer Ammo) to boost your cert earning potential. The beauty of planetside is that it has a lot to offer people, especially in terms of scale. Very few games with let you run with 47 other people in a unit, across infantry, armor, and air.

    Its ok to have a piss-poor KD. My own suffers a bit. If its important to you, then you'll have to put some practice and training in. Joining a mid-sized outfit with some good shooters (Ask them point blank if they do training) is one avenue to boost this. If you just want to have fun, then don't worry about it.

    On Vehicles: They can be very hard to get started in, as they can require a lot of certs to get up to snuff and a good deal of practice is also necessary to get up on par. Since you've stated an interest, but frustration with flight, I'll link you some videos and share some general advice. Also, remember they are more like Helicopters than planes. These videos are from a variety of sources, but all good pilots (One of them is mine).


    For ESFs (Fighter Aircraft) you'll need an intensive 2-3 months before you're on par. Unless you're willing to make that commitment, I'd try something a bit more manageable.

    Courtesy of a Connery Pilot:



    Instead, I'd suggest you start off with the Valkyrie, then work your way over to Liberator/Galaxy. The Valkyrie, a light transport, is a good way to learn the controls and flight mechanics, as its aerodynamically and mechanically forgiving, and a great way to learn the principals of ground support by using a turret gunner. Its also an effective team support asset, and with scout radar, can be an excellent means for flying and earning certs. At higher skill levels, you can push the Valkyrie very, very far.

    Example of Valking (Personal):




    The Liberator is primarily ground attack, but can be effective at A2A, but is multi-crewed with belly gunner and a tail gunner, meaning with some smart choices you can be fairly survivable in the skies. It is usually mutli-crewed, but at higher skill level people will solo it. I can't find a non-solo montage (Libbers like making montages, often set to rave music).

    Liberator(High Skill, do not attempt):



    The Galaxy is a bigger, beefier transport with poor flight mechanics, but can carry MAX suits and up to 12 people. The Galaxy is primarily used as a transport, but also has other fun uses:
    Galaxy(Gunshipping, Do not Attempt without Skill)
  13. stalkish

    Not sure of the requirements (if there is any), but CABO is a very decent outfit on Miller VS, probably one of the best. I think theyre english speaking but have members from multi euro countries.
    Could ask them for some advice, im sure theyd be happy to offer some, some nice guys in there aswel, i often converse with them on /tell.

    O and of course......Welcome to Planetside!!!
    If you're anything like me, no FPS game will be the same ever again.....
  14. blackboemmel

    First: it will get better if you put some time into it.

    Reasons why you should keep going:
    PS2 offers more than any other game i know. It's like 100 different games in one game. I personally like most of them. If i get bored by one game, i play something totally different. With the same people, in the same game.
    Sadly a new player lacks the experience to know about all the possible games and the equipment and to play some of them. But hey, nobody can be a new player for a long time.

    Veteran tips for you:
    You suck but don't want to: find the reasons. One reason for sure is your sub average aiming. If you want to improve: there are tons of videos about aiming in FPS games on YouTube.
    You like playing as Stalker Infiltrator: watch a few YouTube videos of good players and think about what they are doing, how and why.

    Finally we come to the P2W problem that FPS games on PC always have: Get decent hardware! Laptops are not made to enjoy PS2. (Or any other demanding game.)
  15. BrbImAFK

    Couple of other thoughts.....

    If you're looking for a good outfit, I can personally recommend Wild Brotherhood (WIB) and DIG Tactical (DIGT). Do NOT join DIG by accident. They're fun enough blokes, but they're major zerglings, so you're not going to be getting any better in their ranks.

    Looking at your stats, your accuracy really does need work. I'm generally considered a bad, and I run an average accuracy of ~27% with a ~20% headshot ratio. There's a ton of guides and stuff on the internet to help you improve your accuracy. Give them a look, but don't take them overly seriously. This is still a game, after all. Take what works for you, ignore what doesn't and practice, practice, practice - mostly by playing the game! I see little benefit in camping in VR shooting stationary targets for hours on end, personally. I don't care that much about my accuracy!

    You seem to have only played HA and Infil. Try the other roles, honestly. You might find something that agrees with you. Also check out Iridar's Website for, among other things, a bunch of useful information on how to play each class well.

    You seem to be doing a fair bit of stealthing around with pistols (probably stalker infiltrator). If you're liking that playstyle, I strongly recommend you check out CuteBeaver's Youtube channel for excellent stalkery goodness.
  16. DarkStarAnubis

    I am a new player like you (BR31) and I don't play often due to work and family so my progress is painfully slow. The best suggestion already given by others is join a [good] outfit, nothing is better to learn.

    One thing useful to remember: if I die it is because I have made more mistakes than my opponent. if I kill someone it is because he has made more mistakes than me. So every time you die, think about it and find the reasons why, If you can, record the session and replay it.

    Forget weapons, ammo, attachments, ROF, TTK, COF, bloom, shield, implants and god-knows-what. At our level it is BS. The reason you died is in front of your eyes.