NC needs a buff

Discussion in 'PlanetSide 2 Gameplay Discussion' started by dooder, Dec 9, 2012.

  1. KnightCole

    All the NC6 needs is maybe less bullet spread to make up for its slower RoF.....but I have no trouble dying to NC6s...especially once they are upgraded..

    Personally, I agree with you that the NC6 is pretty bad, but one gun doesnt make the entire faction UP.......

    YOur AF19 is plenty bad ***, the EM w/e, the Bolt Driver, your Gauss Rifles...none of them are UP by any stretch, hell, even the MAX suit is better...atleast it has 6 shotguns on it to blow someone away with. The TR MAX has a NC6 attached to its arm.....
  2. r1stormrider

    i can use the T1 cycler, trac-5, or a stock T9 carv and never have to spend SC on aftermarket weapons to be competitive. i can also do the same (and am doing the same) with the VS guns. ease of use is wonderful on those 2 factions. on the NC i actually have to do alot of compensation to get the most out of my guns. ive got FPS experience goin back to doom/wolfenstein 3D so i can handle it, but to the new gen of FPS gamers who are rookies or just new to the genre will find themselves wanting with our weapons.
  3. CTFT

    NC doesn`t deed a buff. Screenshake needs to go! NC has low RoF and high recoil, meaning sreenshake punishes them most.
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  4. ent|ty

    Who cares about 'balance'? Life isn't balanced, war isn't balanced, and people's intellect, ability and financial worth isn't balanced.

    So how have people overcome long before they begin screaming "Nerf! Nerf!", or before the days game players even thought they could tell a developer what to do? They played to the strength and weaknesses of a class/race/weapon/situation and became masters at it.

    Have you exhausted the possibility that perhaps you are not doing this?

    A warrior in heavy armor with a big club should munch up a wizard in cloth. In melee combat there is no balance.
    A wizard with tremendous magical power should melt the face off a warrior. In magic combat there is no balance.

    What decides who wins this battle, is if the warrior can get close and do his huge physical damage, before the wizard can melt the flesh of his bones before he does.

    Both know their place and how they are most effective. Either player yelling 'nerf, nerf' won't change a thing.
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  5. r1stormrider

    ok so its just perfectly fine TR/VS get to have easy mode weapons with hardly any recoil or COF. yep great post CTFT. let them have the pros and we get the cons. the extra damage we're supposed to have? yeah doesnt matter when ROF is what makes DPS matter.
  6. Beartornado

    I don't think this would be as much of an issue if NC weapons actually felt better. I do not like it when my bullets do not go where I shoot them. I can certainly understand bullet drop but SOE is making things far too complicated to last by actually hurting accuracy too.

    Keep it simple. Slower rate of fire for the NC, but more damage. Exactly the same as TR weapons but you deal more damage per bullet at a slower rate while the TR spew bullets at less damage per bullet. At that point it is just preference as opposed to NC weapons just feeling ****** to use in any situation.
  7. r1stormrider

    but it did change things, forumside 2 happened during beta and look what happened to the NC. TR/VS cried enough to get us to where we are today.
  8. Calcifar


    So much miss- information in one post makes me sad.

    ESF :

    Pitch and yaw speeds are identical on all ESF.
    Mossie fastest cruise, Reaver highest top speed.

    Both default and Vortek noseguns of the respective fighters have identical ttk.

    Reaver's breaker rockets are right out best, Mossie second best, Scythe worst.

    There is nothing which makes the Scythe better at anything other than it's stronger air brake.


    Magriders are bad at close or medium range tank battles. All tanks have equal health, Magrider has longest ttk, prowler lowest (yes believe it).
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  9. Sharmanti

    VS player I suppose?

    Reavers have the highest top speed but lacks agility, but moses can maintain it better and over a distance the mos win in speed. Scythes have the power to litteraly stand still in the air, break increadiably fast and their photon cannons aren't to be messed with. I don't know what kind of dogfighting game you've been playing, but the ability to stop in the air and make a super tight turn as fast as the scythe can, it's something that is just so strong. If you're a scythe player and lose to any aircraft, then you're just bad. Not to mention how easy that damn thing is to control and keep still in the air when fighting ground
  10. ent|ty

    The time for that should be in beta. Though some minor changes may happen after that, the time for screaming 'nerf and buff' should mainly be over. Devs should also stop listening and work on newer projects.
    You have to understand there are a lot of older gamers out there, that played these games 'as is' and were fine. I'm just trying to talk sense into people, rather than have them cry like spoiled brats because they can't master something.

    The most fun actually is taking an inferior weapon/class/race and owning people with it. I dont want buffs and nerfs. I want the challenge lol.
  11. Dr. Allcome

    So why are you playing VS then?
  12. KnightCole


    That this never ending quest for "perfect balance" is one thing that, imo, is absolutely destroying World of Tanks. In a never ending bid to get EVERY tank to like 50% Global Win Rate, WG has all but RUINED more tanks then you know. For the most part, the US line has disappeared. German tanks are rare sights and for the most part, its medium zergs and TDs......

    Lets not let that happen to this game as well. OP and UP is a term used to describe something that kills someone....in my case, the AF19, it kicks my ***, so its OP to me......

    CARV kicks alot of people's *****, so they call it OP.

    However, the fact of that matter is the CARV is NOT op, its only good at close range...beyond a few feet, its recoil, accuracy and damage absolutely kill it. Any nerfs to the CARV will send it the way of the World of Tanks US T30....
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  13. Calcifar


    I play NC and outmaneuver your supposed "superior" Scythes on a daily basis.
    The conception that Scythes pitch at a faster rate is a myth.

    My opinion is based on extensive tests and comparisons.
    For example me saying Breaker rockets are "the best" is because I tested all the pod's ttk, reload speed, travel time, damage per hit and whatnot.

    The Scythe offers better Brakes, true. Can it fly backwards like my Reaver? Or outrun rockets ?

    No.

    And no, the Scythe is NOT more agile. It can only stop faster.
  14. StormChazer

    There is something imbalanced about the NC weapons. I have already lost count how many times this has happened to me:
    I start shooting at the enemy, land a couple of hits. Then the enemy opens fire at me and my aim jumps above the enemy
    after which I die a second later. The VS and TR can score kills so much easier. Everyone misses at least 1 bullet in this game
    and after you miss that 1 bullet as NC, you're already at disadvantage.

    Everyone I know agrees that NC is indeed underpowered in comparison to the other factions.
    The sooner devs do something about this, the better. Hopefully they won't buff NC too much,
    because that wouldn't be fun neither.
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  15. dooder

    Lol, create newer projects while the ones we have now are unbalanced as duck with many buggs in the game. You barrely know about good business plans and game development do you? Fixes and balances first then new things. And at the state PS2 is now, it isn't ready for new things yet.

    I dont know where you lived when the classic games came, but they where tester way better then now. Also since end 90's when internet games began to rise updates, balancing and bug fixes where also created this way.
    You're obviously VS, you dont hold power here VS. We know your weapons are OP compared to the NC's, go play NC to find it out for yourself. But I highly doubt you will even try that.
  16. Elkhound

    NC needs a buff but you have target seeking bullets ? i never seen target seeking bullets i play vanu stock weapons and own anyone who stands in my way usually between 4 and 6 people with 2 clips
    i play NC stock weapons and do exactly the same
    i never played TR but expect its also the same
    so all in all if you cant shoot go play something else.

    why dont you quit NC and come join the darkside VS then !
  17. Sharmanti

    Your reaver can do what?

    Also, then you're up against very bad pilots. The insanely good brakes and the ability to be more or less unaffected by gravity is probably the strongest thing a fighter could have. Besides, what's your point? The mos is still the worst aircraft, excelling at.... Nothing!
  18. r1stormrider

    @entity, i dont mind the challenge of our weapons, but i do mind we're in the shape we are because it was done on purpose. the players of the other 2 factions threw balance into the wind.

    when i first played as VS and saw how easily i got my first kill with the HA stock weapon, i was raging hard. i tried the other weapons and none had any recoil to where you had to try to shoot well. it was just me goin full auto and nailing every shot on somebody. it was just ridiculous. the VS have it really good with their weapons and their ease of use. its the same thing on the TR side of the fence. i cant even imagine how much more easier they'll be once i start getting my certs throw into foregrips and reflex sights. right now im just using them as stock on purpose to compare.
  19. Liquid23

    only people I see here crying are you and others of that ilk who seem to ignore all actual evidence and keep expecting the Devs to reprogram the entire game to work around your playstyle because you are incapable of adapting in the slightest... It's rather amusing actually
  20. Dr. Allcome

    http://www.planetside-universe.com/character.php?stats=Elkhound

    Yes, I can see how you owned everyone as NC.