late reply, sry for that. 1st, I don't think you see the "issue" about NC, at least the way I see it. We don't have bad weapons We have in general starting weapons that feel a bit harder to use.That doesn't make them underpowered. That makes them harder to use. Imho, would TR or VS have the NC weapons caracteristics, you would see them cry exactly the same. VS in beta cried exactly the same because they had some damage degradation issue. As far as I see it, the main culprit is seeing our foe do stunts we cannot, namely, medium range full auto insta-kill shots. Medium-good TR/VS players can pull this off. NC cannot, and to some this is disheartening. They don't see the fewer shots hitting have the same effect. It feels very often you have a foe running full auto and pin-point. And honestly, when playing VS, that's exactly what happens. Technically speaking, it's easier. less control needed. Doesn't mean it's more efficient, I just don't have to work the same as VS compared to NC for the same result. The SAW case is very special, and should be treated separately, and should certainly not be the base of an argument for a NC buff as a whole (and omg I hope SOE is not going to buff NC, plz) And all this is mixed in with upgrades on weapons and different weapons unlock, making all this weapon differences not THAT important in the end. I'm super average, I manage positive K/D despite doing too much infantry work seeing how this game caters for vehicle stacking, so the NC issue cannot be THAT bad. This feeling has apparently on many servers led to a slightly lower NC population. I think this is what hits us the hardest, in fact. Slightly harder to master weapons + underpop, following your logic, leads to BETTER NC players. Not worse. Because we "have to adapt". You, OTOH, is taking the stance of, de facto, NC having worse player without any reason behind it. Blue color attract worse players? Guitar Hero music attracts worse player? What's your rationale for, bad luck, seeing bad players go NC? Nota : if you really want my opinion (you'll get it even if you don't ), the whole game is far too easy, in every technical aspect. The amount of things to be done, amount of learning necessary to get things done, is subpar. Vehicles are super efficient without effort Infantry is not much more. NC weapon style could be a good basis for the EASIEST weapons in the game. So I really wish SOE is not going to listen to NC whines. They should up the recoils/CoF as a whole. This would have a load of positive impact. TTK slightly lowered to better levels, without going to stupid PS1 extremes. Reduced full auto efficiency at range, reinstating burst modes on range. Higher differential between a good and a bad player.
I wish we could just an official response on this. On topic; Its not like the weapons of NC totally suck, but with the same amount of skill i pour into NC weapons, i would get 4 times the result with either VS or TR weapons. Because of that i know that either NC weapons or both TR and VS weapons need tweaking.
"This feeling has apparently on many servers led to a slightly lower NC population. I think this is what hits us the hardest, in fact. Slightly harder to master weapons + underpop, following your logic, leads to BETTER NC players. Not worse. Because we "have to adapt". good players will adapt and thrive even if you give only broomstick to them , but most players are not "good" most players are below average, wich means they have broblems with NC weapons what they cant overcome, wich leads to jumping on TR/VS empire cos of MUCH more user friendly weapons,
I tend to disagree about the amount of issue. Again, I'm average. I should be destroyed if NC weapons were that bad. That's not what happens. (OK, I play some M-hACkSaw in Biolabs, some Lightning HE farming, but as far as pure HA job goes, It's not going bad either)
I posted these images on Reddit, they are pics/stats of me playing both VS and NC to level 20. VS results: http://i.imgur.com/hyWkK.jpg NC results: http://i.imgur.com/EtvVx.jpg I enjoyed playing as NC, as I didn't know any better, as I'm just an average player. But, as you can tell from my KDR, it improved and I attest that to the guns being much better in CQB; where fighting is most of the time. I will also go out and say that NC weapons are much better at long rage, but when most battles are close together, the VS or TR are always going to best the NC, unless they outnumber us. There is also other things I noticed, but definitely the NC weapons are slightly under-powered. Slightly less recoil, and I think that is all you would need to change.
It's the same story again and again. You think I'm a good EM6 user? Give me a CARV and my K/D goes up 200%.
NC weapons are not totally broken, but NC weapons NEEDS better player to make it as effective as TR ones, if anyone like to deny this fact , so be it, keep going, deny it all and prepare to get shock when NC get buffed.
Congratulations, Virgul! You have shown that the Gauss SAW does 40% more damage per bullet. I guess you missed the part where the T9 CARV has a rate-of-fire 50% faster than the SAW. You might also want to consider taking weapon accuracy and recoil into account. Just a thought. If you are still doubtful, then great a new NC account. Takes 20 seconds. Do a weapon trial for 30 minutes in a contested area. After you've done that, come back and re-assess your previous statement. Tell us what you've found out.
"Slightly less recoil, and I think that is all you would need to change". recoil is not the real broblem, broblem is that when TR land even 1 shot it makes NC weapons too inaccurate to retaliate effectivily wich leads to "snowball" effect NC just cant land shots while TR can,but this should be pretty clear THING to all honest players who have played NC and TR side.
ya know if you spent 1/2 as much time playing the game as you do complaining and arguing with nothing more than anecdotes to back it up you just might get good and not have a reason to cry anymore
ARE YOU KIDDING ? way more easier to post wall of numbers what nobody reads anyway + all those people who have posted "numbers" to justify current balance between TR vs NC weapons have been shot down again and again.
i can bet allmost anything that i have more played hours in ps2 than you do, wich is trivial anyway, fact is that huge portion of player base in NC side feels that something is wrong in they guns and MOST honest TR players admit it also that espacially in HA class TR T9 CARV IS next to perfect compared to gauss SAW , small but VERY active group of TR players are the ones who have nothing more to say than "l2p and dont cry" JUST LIKE YOU DO.
oh no more nonsense, speculation with no facts and anecdotal evidence... how could I possible compete with that... lol
AH, my bad i didnt know its only your right to " speculation with no facts and anecdotal evidence" but one thing is allmost certain i have MORE played hours in PS2 than you have.
As NC light assault with a fair-ish K/D of 1.5(less than 2 percent of all my kills are from vehicles) I don't think NC is in anyway underpowered. If anything the low accuracy and high recoil that used to plague me has only made me better. While I'll admit that VS and TR players seem to be able to full auto me at midrange. I wouldn't trade my weapons for theirs since without such an unstable weapon I wouldn't be half as good at avoiding midrange(and potentially fatal) encounters.
And another ******** TR troller with 0 knowledge about the issue with NC guns and is crying in hope to get more farm kills on NC players.
