NC low win-rate - where is the balance?

Its already slow velocity is even slower when suppressed, and it has a distinct non-quiet sounded (you hear it an there is no mistaken it) whether its suppressed or not probably one of the loudest surpressed weapons if not the loudest.

Its semi auto isn't that great, there are far better weapons that fill that role, and if you panic spam you will end up changing the core and going through that whole molasses process.

The suppressor isn't for the sound silly.

But anyway, sniper rifles should never be spam-fired due to their horrible CoF after the first shot, so that's a bit irrelevant.

I'm saying its distinct sound can be heard for a ways, so even if you didn't light up on the mini map, you probably were heard and there is no mistaken what weapon made that noise.

Its semi auto is not great, you are better off taking the blackhand as a secondary and using it, then you are semi firing the Phaseshift.

The Trap has more of a role to fill than the Phaseshift and fills it better.

So does the Railjack, and the ES cloak sounds. The sound is indeed a disadvantage, but it is far from uncommon.

Personally I'd probably rather take the PS over a BH an day of the week. Higher magnification, versatility, unlimited ammo, no drop, and one can still bring a CQC sidearm.

I'd say that Trap has its own separate role. Though, if I were to change the PS at all, it'd be to give it 1x-4x(6x?) sights.

Look up how many people use the railjack over the phaseshift and ask yourself why that is.

The railjack is a long range sniper and doesn't have to worry about sound, the phaseshift isn't.

Look up how many use the blackhand over the phaseshift and ask yourself why that is.

Its not the most neglected primary because it is so awesome.

Railjack is an extreme range sniper rifle, however it's just kinda meh. A delay bolt action is pretty bad in terms of just how unique the weapon is, it's just a glorified phaseshift that only shoots long range shots at the tradeoff of low ammo, reload and refire rate.

The phaseshift being a sniper with infinite ammo, a neat charging mechanic with the versatility to shoot smaller shots for weakened targets, enhanced targeting with this gun would be s neat concept. The tradeoff if that you have to prep a full charge for a one shot kill, be that as it may, a railjack is a glorified long range sniper, the phaseshift is a unique space gun, I'm honestly wishing that the NC would swap for it.

Players use the Railjack because they think it's good, sometimes even the best rifle. Players don't use the Phaseshift for the opposite reason, they are told it's useless. In realistic, both are pretty bad for general use, but that don't stop anyone.

Again, it's not sound that's the problem, it's appearing on the mini-map when firing, giving oneself away.

I'd take the Blackhand over the Phase shift because I could use that with any class, or as a stalker.

I never said it was good, just that it's not bad.

I think having no bullet drops for vehicle secondary weapons affects the win ratio much. Sniping NC tanks from hills gives TR and VS victory. NC can't snipe tanks because of it's high drop rate/slow projectile weapon "Enforcer". Ability to destroy vehicles is the most important thing imo. And VS and TR is the best at this. TR gatekeeper is still op especially, Gatekeeper nerf didn't do anything to it. This makes TR closer to VS by win ratios. While NC sucks.

I completely agree, snipers with fast bolt action are more useful. And every faction has one.

Come on Daybreak, either buff NC or offer NC players to transfer TR or VS. I spent a lot of time playing, and I don't wanna play on a dying faction. Let us transfer to TR or VS and give all our earned certification points back after transferring. I don't care about level.
I'm at the edge of quitting the game just because of this imbalance problem. Reaver sucks, ground vehicles sucks, not playable like this. I tried VS and I fly like an ace against NC with a Scythe. It was very easy to kill Reavers with a Scythe. That's really unfair.

The railjack receives far more use and kills than the least used gun in the game, the gimmicky phaseshift, and theres a reason it so little used with very few kills compared to all other weapons, hell the beamers a deadlier weapon with far more kills under its belt.

I'm sure the VS would accept that trade.

Though if the phaseshift also had access to x4 scopes and below, it would see more use.

NC? Are you guys still around? All I ever see is TR and VS. I thought you guys packed up and left.

NC players all quit and created VS/TR characters after they realized VS and TR factions are OP lol.

I play NC, and I enjoy it.

When my side is outnumbered, the cert bonus is great. Get with a good platoon, win locally, and profit.

Why NC players have been crying since day 1 is beyond me. I don't even try to understand it.

The railjack is just as gimicky, but at one point it had an alt fire that was a shotgun instead of a delay long range really niche sniper rifle. WE NEED MORE SHOTGUNS.

Jesus, NC. You have the best tank ability that negates even 2 c4 damage, highly accurate AP cannons, dumbfire rockets that fly in a straight path, rockets you can fire safely from behind cover, the best maxes that can clear a room in seconds, the weapons with the fastest TTK, an AP mine that doesn't idiotically glow. And here you are begging for more buffs.

VS weapons from ZOE to PPA to Betelgeuse to even our magrider mobility have been nerfed to uselessness to accommodate you for years now. If you're still not winning it may be time to admit it's not the equipment.

You're incompetent. And that's that.

It's hilarious how this thread has devolved into trying to nerf our snipers now. In the apparent belief that our snipers don't have bullet drop, LOL (they do). Since when did snipers decide who wins alerts anyway? It's as if you've run out of things you can still try to get nerfed from us. LOL

Leave our advantages alone. We have little enough as it is. The sad thing is that devs have always listened to your whining. You're the "good guys" after all.

Here, I think you dropped this.

The problems are:

1) TR is overnumbered
2) VS is overpowered
3) NC is outnumbered and half-way underpwoered

But when they are in their might, they can capture a whole continent in like 2 hours, lol

Jesus, ObsidianSoul,

1)

Yes, you can survive 2 C4 if you realize you are getting C4'ed beforehand and it is not on cooldown and you didn´t take much damage before. Otherwise you will blow up anyway.

It´s not difficult to put C4 on a Vanguard, as it is a slow moving brick.

I am sure you never tried to C4 a Magrider, right? The amount of times you will get killed getting run over or dropping your C4 just beside the circlestrafing Magrider just for it to boost away before you can detonate your C4 will make you rage, let me promise that to you.

And TR? Yeah, everytime I get greeted by a bombardment from a ridgeline full of 1/2 Prowlers in lockdown I think "LOL, those poor SOBs with their ****** ES tanks, I bet they wished they had Vanguards instead.".

2)

All AP cannons have the same accuracy, it´s the velocity and therefore drop that´s different. Wanna know who is king there by a far margin? Lockdown Prowlers.

3)

All manheld pure dumbfire rockets fly "straight", it´s just the drop that´s different. All NC dumbfire-able rockets have some.

Wanna know which ES RL launcher has no drop? The VS Lancer which hits where you point it, even straight across the map.

4)

See this bright blue, glowing ball slowly drift into your direction? Shoot it, it´s not hard. You now wasted the time it took the shooter to slowly steer the missile into your direction, plus the time it takes him to reload, which only starts after the missile is destroyed.

Plus, you only have 300m of travel range, corrections included most of the time it´s more like 200-250m.
Wanna know who can double that range? Lancer says hello.

5)

Only If there are about 3-4 people in the room at most that let themselves happily get shot up at close range instead of just dropping a tankmine or some C4 in front of the NC MAX or stick a decimator in his face.

Why the 3-4 people limit? Because then the NC MAX is out of ammo and needs to reload for about 5 seconds before he can continue "cleaning the room" unmolested.

Wanna know who can kill more than 3-4 people before having to reload their AI weapons? TR and VS Maxes, who are also more safe from harm from run-by tankmine or C4 drops around a corner because they have more range (in b4 "BUT ZOMG SLUGS ARE SO GOOD YOU JUST SUCK!" Yeah, right...)

6)

Nonsense, again. Just to give you a hint, the standard damage model for NC is 600x167 or 500x200. For TR it´s 750x143. You do the math.

(In b4 "BUT A FEW HUNDREDS OF A SECOND FASTER 3-HS-KILLS WITH CYCLONE SMG IN FACETOUCHING RANGE YOU JUST SUCK!" Yeah, makes a big difference if you calculate 200ms reaction time alone and is totally relevant to the overall gameplay. That´s why noone except Infiltrators and purebred CQC Heavies who cannot aim a shotgun use it usually.)

7)

It does, even the most of all ES AI mines. Seriously, what´s wrong with you?

I will not comment on your whining how bad you have it as VS.

Instead I will finish with this:

As usual, the loudest, most scrutinizing people in a discussion are those lacking factual based knowledge on the subject they are shouting about.

In other words, the incompetent.

I seriously think you believe your faction is "better" than the other because of players such as you.

You are wrong, snowflake.

1) Vanguards are faster than magriders. In fact everything is faster than magriders. LOL Vanguards also have higher gun elevation and can see incoming infantry far easier since you know... YOUR GUN IS MOUNTED ON A TURRET. LOL It's hilarious how utterly scared you all seem to be simply because the magrider floats. That's pretty much its only advantage. It floats.

2/3) "same accuracy" != different drops/velocity. LOL. Like our rockets, all our MBT weapons curve like a gently falling snowflake. You have virtually hitscan tank weapons. We have to aim ours. And here you are claiming our weapons are skill-less and have "no bullet drop". ;D

4) Yeah it's so easy to shoot down Phoenixes. I do it everyday! /sarcasm

5) Obviously you've never tried dropping a tank mine or a c4 in front of a scatmax. LOL You're dead the moment it sees you. No ifs or buts. Even if it just clips your legs or your hand or your gun. Just dead. And *whine cry whine* short range *whine* If you use maxes for sniping infantry, you're doing it wrong. Also in case you didn't know already: even without slugs, ravens are just as good in AI as our specialist AI weapons. Better even.

6) And the VS ones? Where are they? So why are we winning almost all alerts again if your weapons have only slightly lower best TTK? LOL Why isn't TR winning when they have the gatekeeper and prowlers and the best ESF?

Just face it already. You've convinced DBG to nerf everything we have. You can't even identify anymore what's making us win more alerts. I mean snipers? Really? LOL What else? P.S. Before you say "no bullet drop", that's the biggest lie they've ever told you. The only Vanu weapons I can recall that have no bullet drop is the Lancer and the Lasher.

Quit blaming your failures on others. You have pretty good players too, and the stats pretty much back that up. Shame they care more about farming and griefing though. Maybe if you actually cared more about alerts you might actually win more of them.

Just.
Stop.
Whining.