lynx, jaguar or hailstorm

Discussion in 'Light Assault' started by Phrygen, Mar 11, 2013.

  1. Phrygen

    i drive a tank, and rarely use my weapon... but were i to get one, which would be best for a prowler driver who?

    I'm thinking hailstorm just for when i jump out of the tank to go into a building or shoot a guy with c4...
  2. Kaerius

    Probably the Jaguar, it's the best all-round, it's good for CQC and anything up to medium range really. Mind you I'm quite enjoying my Trac 5 after I put a foregrip and NV/IR scope on it, it's a very good low budget option. Too bad we can't really compete with NC or VS best CQC carbines, but oh well.
  3. Wolfwood82

    Pretty much all of our weapons compete with all of there's rather well at CQC. Our slowest RoF carbine is faster then most other carbines.

    However I would have to agree with the Jaguar. Hailstrom is a weapon for extended infantry combat, really handy for deep ops where you can't count on ammo boxes. I have more experience with the Lynx then the Jag myself, but part of me thinks a Jag would be a better option if only because the thing is a bit more versatile and has better range with hipfire/adv laser.

    Though personally I'd go with a shotgun. I tank and LA a lot myself, and I find that tanks make great weapons for outdoor combat, so paired with great indoor personal weapon is the most logical choice for me. After all, I get out of my tank to go indoors, not snipe from rooftops or engage in long range field combat... So there's really no point in looking for versatility if you can have overwhelming CQC firepower.
  4. Kaerius

    Our highest RoF carbines have strictly worse RoF/DPS than the NC/VS highest RoF carbines. (Lynx vs GD-7F/Serpent). In a straight up 1v1 close range frontal, the GD-7F and Serpent will beat us every time. And yes I've been in this situation, down to starting shooting at the same time, they usually survive with 4-5 bars of health left when I'm dead(though I'm using the Trac 5, so even more at disadvantage), split the difference and I expect them to win with about 2 bars left.

    Our default carbine is arguably better than the VS one, I'll grant you and more different than better compared to the NC one(ours more CQC, theirs more mid-long).
  5. Iridar51

    You're assuming you have equal accuracy with your enemies. Also, the difference in TTK is a few hundredths of a second, so don't even start on this "started shooting at the same time".
    Don't blame your gun for being bad.
  6. Wolfwood82

    You must be a humming bird/human hybrid to be able to actually perceive a difference...

    That being said, you are doing something terribly wrong if you are consistently losing. Maybe you should stop blaming the balanced game mechanics and start figuring out what you are doing wrong and how you might help change that?

    For starters, you can stop theorizing about the difference between a Lynx and a non-CQC oriented carbine, and actually try it out. The Trac-5 is a nice gun, but it isn't built for CQC or a specialist gun of any kind. It is a general weapon designed to be a jack of all trades. So yes when you pit it up against a dedicated CQC carbine in a CQC situation, your going to have fairly one sided results. However this isn't permission to blame the gun, this is just to point out the derp statement for what it is. You can easily beat anyone in CQC with any carbine if you play your cards right from square one.

    I've beaten and been beaten by damn near every combination of class/gun/tactic in this game. It's not your gun, it's you.
  7. ThalonGauss

    Hailstorm is ****, get the armistice great accuracy and I more often than not win out against a HA as an Infil, great buy.
  8. Wolfwood82

    It's great for infiltrators yes.

    It's far less useful for LA. We have shotguns AND CQC carbines, so the Armistice isn't filling any niche roles with us and certainly isn't an improvement over our other options for the exact same jobs. The Hailstrom is by far a better option for LA then the Armistice, as it gives us decent CQC and medium range ability, and 60 freaking rounds per magazine. No contest IMO.
  9. Ghoest

    Ive always thought the Lynx was the gun.

    But Im coming around to thinking the Jag is the best LA gun in the game - at least for players like me.
  10. Kaerius

    I'm not consistently losing, indeed I often go on kill streaks.

    What you're ignoring though is that the GD7F and the Serpent are objectively better than the Lynx from a TTK/DPS perspective, and that's what I've been talking about all along. Sure it won't matter often, but an edge is an edge, and this time the edge is a 5% faster kill time. I also haven't made any buff/nerf whines here, it's only a statement of fact.
  11. NoctD

    More Lynx for you not yet convinced...

    Video Lynx

    The bunch of them that play together are some of the best TR infantry players from formerly Genudine and now on Helios, and they all pretty much use the Lynx as far as carbines go.
  12. Wolfwood82

    It's a statement of fact in the form of a whine.

    Lynx has a faster ADS move speed, I just countered your argument by presenting an edge that the Lynx has that the 7F and Serpent do not.

    And you just got done saying "they beat us every time", and "too bad our CQC carbines can't compete". Which suggests to me that they beat YOU every time, which suggests that you are doing something wrong. These are "statements of fact" made in absolute ignorance. You then admitted that you don't use the Lynx, which is worse. Because now you are insisting that you know what you are talking about without ever having picked up the weapon.

    Look dude, you've lost this argument. Statement of fact or not, you were wrong to even bring it up. I've done this whole argue with the brick wall thing and I'm not about to get into yet another argument with someone who insists on looking at 3 effing numbers and calling himself an expert on the matter.
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  13. DrTeeth

    The default TRAC-5 is excellent at medium range and works just fine up close due to its high ROF. If you're mostly driving a tank I wouldn't bother spending the certs /cash on another carbine. If you do want to get something, try a shotgun perhaps. They're good fun. :)
  14. Ghoest

    The Jag more than any other carbine has the advantages of a SMG but still have carbine range.
  15. Phrygen

    why the jag vs the lynx?

    and in VR i have to say i thought the hailstorm was somewhat lacking in accuracy, even with the advanced laser
  16. commandoFi

    I really like the Jaguar. I consider it one of, if not the best CQC carbines for TR. Despite lower DPS I do not get ROFLstomped by higher RoF carbines. It is also good at slightly longer ranges when burst firing. However, if you REALLY won't be at longer ranges much, SMG's and shotguns may suit you better.
  17. Farlion

    Jaguar is the best.
    But honestly, even the starter NC Merc is better than any TR Carbines.
  18. Paperlamp

    I hope this a troll.

    Jag/Lynx > VX6-7 > Everything else. I'd trade my NC's Merc for a Jag no question.

    Jag has faster ADS movement, better accuracy, higher clip size, much faster RoF, less recoil...slightly lower damage per bullet. TOUGH DECISION.
  19. Farlion

    "slightly lower damage per bullet."

    I hope this is a troll.
  20. VanuSovereignty

    If you look at the damage tiers, it is a big difference, but if you look at the actual damage, 14 isn't that large of a gap.