Translation: "Statistics that disprove my point but that I cannot refute so I just completely ignore what does not fit with my worldview." Really the only thing I can think of that would skew these statistics are 1/3 Liberators. Where the Dalton remains empty until the nosegunner switches over for that killshot. Sort of how sidearm KPHs are unusually high. But this can't possibly be true, as Liberator pilots tell me that 1/3 Liberators are horribly ineffective and totally not a thing, because if they were a thing then it would absolutely break the balance of a vehicle that is meant for at least two people to use. These are of course the same Liberator pilots who are enraged when you suggest that seat swapping limitations and auto-stalling should be a thing for Liberators. Oh, the Titan AP is great at AA you say? Let's compare AKPH values! Air Kills Per Hour NC Dalton: 12.03 Titan AP: 2.05 So the Dalton is 487% more effective at killing aircraft than the Vanguard's AP cannon. Why? Probably because of the chassis. For a vehicle meant for A2G work, the Liberator has surprising agility, able to quickly turn and track mobile targets with its "belly of death". The Vanguard on the other hand is stuck in a 2D plane and has very limited traverse so cannot engage enemy aircraft without foresight and planning (or if the pilot just happens to be really, really stupid). Additionally the Liberator has the speed to keep up with and destroy most aircraft while the Vanguard can only trundle along. I don't even think you can compare the Dalton to the Titan in an AA role and keep a straight face.