Lattice did ONE thing right... It got people off of Indar better than Alerts ever did!

That's why you need to have someone on point at the next base when the one you're capping flips. Send an advance force a minute ahead to secure the next base and no LA can cap the base behind you.

Except it was being used, again, by one guy, to delay the cap because they couldnt hold. Its not like this was a roll, we fought long and hard to get to that point and in the end we actually lost it and got pushed back. If it was a squad of people I wouldn't have minded. At that point its a thought out tactical maneuver, a group re-enforcing or simply a squad that managed to break out. At that point its called being outplayed.

This was one guy not wanting to be in the meat grinder that was literally on the point, probably because it hurt his KD ratio. The line between their half of the base and our half of the base was moving less than 2m and the point was changing hands because of it. It was insane and it went on for over 30 mins. Why should I punish a handful of guys by preventing them joining this because someone has to watch the point "just in case". We had no way of knowing he would come back.

There should be some way of stopping that though Ive come up with nothing. NPC guards is the obvious one but I really dont like it. I also thought that you need more ppl on the point behind than is currently on the next point in line but that just out and out promotes zerging in every way, I dont like it at all.

ok it took me a minute , but your talking about Lattice in the frist part and hex in the second , can you explain to me "hey couldnt take the point because they could only barely keep us off theirs" im not sure i ever experienced that and im not sure im understanding you correctly lol

your saying that becasue of the hex system no side could reliably cap the other sides point , because both sides were trying to defend and attack at the same time ? or am i not understanding ? i guees that would be an issue if you were fighting squad vs squad or 1 platoon vs 1 platoon . but i fail to sse how it would be an issue in a larger battle that had equal numbers ...

That's what makes this a valid tactic. A diversion to divert enemy forces from where they are needed in order to break their line. Sounds tactically sound to me.

Maybe that one guy was using his brain and realized he could draw four people from the fight by being one lone nuisance. I know my 4-6 man squad always tries to come up with ways we can be significant with a small amount of manpower.

Its not like he did this the moment we left. He wasnt sat there waiting for us to leave, in which case, fair enough.

Both sides had 100 odd people in this fight and the fight for the point was vicious as all hell. As stated above, we were there for over 30 mins and the point was changing hands because the battle lines moved 2 m. He either left that fight or just flat came in from a different base to cap that point alone while the battle was raging on.

Or

Remember kids , you were either to lazy to attack , or you are such an over-entitled gamer you felt you could avoid fights while still earning land .

its good you dont nmiss ghost capping .

are you aware that the lattice was not meant to solve the ghost capping issue?

it was being removed already .

i have no issue with discussion on why people do or do not like the lattice , but any comment about ghost capping is irelevant. you didnt like ghost capping? cool beans !!! its an unrelated issue that was being changed regardless of lattice implementation . so please i look forwar to your response's but try and remeber that ghost cappin has naught to do with the topic at hand .

On the contrary, reducing the number of links between bases means that there are less options to attack and defend, which has meant that any base that is attacked is more likely to have defenders or be defended during the cap. Ghost capping has everything to do with the topic at hand, and reducing it was one of the purposes of the lattice change.

That red line is the approximate battle line. This is the line we were fighting over for the better part of 30 mins. The 2 green circles were our sundys. We held Allatum Broadcast but this LA kept going back there to flip it so we could physically start the timer on West highlands.

We held that line more or less in that position for 30 mins. If we could hold that line right there that close to their spawn room for that long there was no way in hell they could in any realistic fashion take Allatum Broadcast.

They could have made it so people needed to stay on the cap points .. or 0/3 meant you needed 3 people before it began to cap .. But nope people didn't want those because it " limited " them ..

Personally I would have gone with both and if the point dropped to 0/3 w/e it would start to auto flip back to the owner

Here in Waterson the NC had 2 dominating victories in Amerish and Esamir because almost nobody in the TR and VS showed up for the alerts.

It means that the two servers I play on were merged, and most people choose to be on Indar rather than the other two continents. Which have not had queues so far.

actually it means whatever you want it to mean . and in this case you want it to mean that Indar is more popular when that is debatable .

Uhm, yes you do. If you are traveling to the base ahead of you and someone starts to hack the base you just left, you cannot start hacking the base in front of you, so yes you have to worry about enemies behind you.

The OP literally made this thread complaining about that very mechanic.

You could just make it so that a minimum of three people of the same faction have to be in the capture area to start hacking a point. That way it probably ends up being a coordinated team effort to go behind enemy lines rather than one solo player.

wut ... where ....

i stand by what i said .

at the very least backcapping is as much of an issue as ghost capping was .

as in not an issue .

people just made an issue about it .

i agree with the OP lazy , or over-entitled . ghost/back capping just not a real issue .

Reality is not malleable. Debate what you will, but facts are facts. Last night, I could not get into Indar. There were more people on Indar than on either of the other two continents, despite there being no alert on Indar.

If there are more people in place A and fewer in places B or C, and the people in place A have the option to leave and go to place B or C, then place A is more popular than either place B or C, by definition. That is what the word "popular" means. What I want has nothing to do with what words mean.

Sorry I've been posting in a couple different lattice threads, got confused about which OP was which.

Regardless, you can stand by what you say but it's still wrong.

In the lattice, if you hold regent rock garrison and your platoon leaves it to go cap scarred mesa, the enemy can go to regent rock garrison and start hacking the point before you get to scarred mesa. If they do that, you cannot start hacking scarred mesa until you secure the hack back at regent rock garrison.

So yes, the enemy going behind your lines is actually something to worry about now.


Ghost capping created boring cat and mouse gameplay. The vast majority of players didn't enjoy it at all. Obviously something is wrong if most of the players didn't like it.


And @ OP: Your thread is a waste. Mattherson Indar almost always has a queue. It's pretty obvious that more players like lattice than don't.

On waterson Alerts = lowpop Indar , so i guess we can take what we both are seeing and come to the conclusion that no one is right or no one is wrong . in reality , neither of us really know for sure . we are both seeing different things that could be equally right or equally wrong . eventually we will both find out from people who actually Know and only then will it be settled . im not trying to make people believe me , as alot of people seem to be trying to do this last week , im just stating my observations , which are from all times of day , and trying to discuss everyones observations . mine just happen to be opposite to some others

as for what you think popularity means , by "definition, ill just refer you to this , since you want to go by "definition"

https://www.google.ca/#safe=off&q=p...r.r_qf.&fp=f47f6bd870c2141f&biw=1866&bih=1021

at this point neither you nor i can know what the majority of people playing ,before the lattice was introduced , believe one way or the other .
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The best thing about these threads that re post something that has already been posted somewhere else 1000 times already is that 80% of the replies are snarky comments. Always good for a chuckle. Keep it up boys!