Lancer v AV MANA Turret?

Discussion in 'PlanetSide 2 Gameplay Discussion' started by a-koo-chee-moya, Sep 9, 2014.

  1. a-koo-chee-moya

    Well, I'm waiting around for a sale of one of these, so I'm looking into which one to buy. All feedback is welcome.

  2. ajma

    Although the AV Mana hits much harder, the Lancer is less situational.
  3. Tycoh

    The lancer is great in harassing the crap out of armor and, if the armor pilot is stupid enough to sit in your field of view, killing them with ease. If you're coordinated enough, you can destroy aircraft pretty fast too.

    Lancer squads are godlike, only if you can find people to do it.

    The AV turret has its uses as an unlimited ammo stationary defense weapon but its still very situational. You can't move around to dodge hits or displace from an exposed position as reliably as to using the Lancer.

    I'd go for the lancer as its cheaper and much more flexible than the AV mana turret.
  4. a-koo-chee-moya

    Cheaper? I thought they were both 1000 certs or 700 SC? Are you talking about certing munitions pouch versus certing cooldown on MANA?
  5. Saool

    Solo, I find the lancer pretty much restricted to being a kill stealer. You spam quick shots in to things already on fire. Beyond that it is largely a support weapon. IE you do some damage and others with more capable weapons do you rest. It also draws a nice line right back to you so enemy tanks and snipers can reward you for being so silly.

    Get in a group however and it is just lethal. A team of 6 or more lancer heavies will cut through an armoured column with ease.

    Can't comment on the mana turret.
  6. Ronin Oni

    It's not cheaper at all...

    they're the same price

    Furthermore, if you're buying with SC, the AV turret unlocks for all factions.

    Also, I highly recommend getting OFF your turret in between shots....

    Lancer has more range, AV turret has more damage.

    Lancer is for HA, Turret is for Engie.

    I'd say it depends more on what you play more often.

    I like AV turret when I'm out tanking... if I bail and survive, I have a solid AV weapon to keep using. I've picked up another 3-4 tank kills from this after losing my tank.

    You'll get killed a lot, but the times it works is worth it IMO :p You'd have died with or without it when you do die.
  7. ColonelChingles

    As a Lightning I fear Lancers much more than MANA AV Turrets.

    Engineers have to stay inside the AV MANA Turret for the duration of missile, making them pretty easy targets. Whereas Lancers can either spam their shots or charge them up behind a rock.

    You can also more easily avoid AV MANA missiles than a Lancer shot. Lancers are probably going to hit you. AV Missiles can be dodged or simply avoided through cover.
  8. DxAdder

    The Lancer is the best anti-AV weapon in the game.
  9. a-koo-chee-moya

    ? AV missiles can bend, while Lancer cannot.
  10. ColonelChingles

    With the Lancer's high velocity, it doesn't need to bend.
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  12. a-koo-chee-moya

    Well, you can reaim the Turret along the way, which should be just as good.
  13. ColonelChingles

    Except you know, the slightest bit of movement can throw it off, or that during the time the missile is in flight the enemy could move or hide behind a rock.
  14. Shootybob

    Lancer is superior. Superior range, superior velocity, superior "not getting shot in the head" ability....

    Functionally they're about the same, but I hugely prefer the lancer if I have ready access to ammo.
  15. Frosty The Pyro

    Lets be accurate here, the Lancer is the best AV weapon in the game for HA. MAX and vehicle based AV tend to be better.

    The lancer hits for 1500 at full charge (same damage as a lock on rocket), and fires faster than lock ons, this gives the lancer the number 3 best dps for HA AV (behind the dumbfire and decimator). However because the sunderer has extra resistances against dumbfires which makes the Lancer hands down the best sunderer killer rocket launcher. Lancer also has the biggest damage pool of any HA launcher, which means dispite what a lot folks like to say, the lancer is a better solo launcher than any of the others (though to be fair no HA launcher is particularly good solo).

    Essentialy if you can aim even a little bit, the lancer will completely outclass G2G lock on, if you can aim a moderate bit it will outclass G2G and G2A lock on simultaniously, except maybe against ESFs which will require you to have good aim. The only reasons to use a different launcher are you want to shoot infantry too, or you want to do the "place c4, detonate c4 with rocket" bit.
  16. Yeahy

    I thought that the lancer had the same damage type as the dumb fires?
  17. Frosty The Pyro

    no, no no no, lancer is its own special damage type, dumbfires get ~50% bonus damage (less against sunderer, more against esf), lancer gets 2x against all ground targets, bit less against air though.


    here is a post with a link to an up to date resistance table
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  18. a-koo-chee-moya

    Yep, I just looked at them, and it looks like I'm getting lancer.
  19. Tycoh

    Yeah,yeah. That's what I meant as its almost assumed that if you're going to use either of those you've got to have the ammo cert or cooldown certs at max for best results.