Keep the old lynx please

​Hello. This is my first time posting on the forums. I have been playing Planetside 2 for about a year and, until now, have never felt the need to make myself heard or my opinions known. However, with recent plans for an update to TR carbines, I feel compelled to speak since the change will place my current play style in serious jeopardy.
​Before you make any changes, SOE, please consider what you have in the form of the current Lynx users. The Lynx, as it is now, is the only carbine in the TR’s arsenal with the ability to approach the DPS of the NC and Vanu equivalents: the GD-7F and the Serpent VE-92 (both of which have a massive lead of 107 extra damage points every second). The new Lynx will only widen this gap as the next two rapid-fire carbines we possess in the 143 damage tier, the Jaguar and the Trac 5, trail behind at 750 RPM. That’s a total of 266 difference in DPS!
​This would not be relevant had you kept true to the spirit of the original Lynx – that of a rapid-fire, super submachine gun with tight moving hip fire and excellent DPM.
However, the new Lynx is not the old Lynx – it is a completely different gun. Gone is the .75 ADS multiplier. Gone is the tight moving hip fire. Gone is the exceptional damage per magazine that allowed it to compete with its counterparts in close quarters. Everything that made the old Lynx worthwhile is being scrapped in favor of something else. Furthermore, those of us who appreciated the Lynx for what it was are being left to fend for ourselves, whilst those who called for the changes get a new toy at our expense. To be honest, this makes me feel a little cheated.
​I propose that you keep the current Lynx and simply rename the one that you have on the test server. This has the potential to keep Lynx users satisfied and happy, while also addressing the needs of those who called for the update that you have planned.
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If you don't mind, I'll quote my other post on how keeping the old Lynx and the new Lynx would benefit the Terran arsenal:

I hope my analysis brings insight into the current and future situation with the TR carbine arsenal.

Please do not replace the Lynx. IMHO it is one of the more finely balanced weapons currently available to TR. Lynx 2.0 is a fine weapon in its own right but should not replace something that is fine as is. I would rather see any other carbine in TR's arsenal replaced before the Lynx, including the Jag.

Thanks for the support guys glad to see there are at least a few who feel as I do.

Or make the Jag into a Lynx-like by changing it into the 143-100@800 weapon the Lynx was maybe, at least, it will provide a comparable type replacement.

As much as some people like the Lynx, many people like the Jaguar as well. I like to add weapons rather than overhaul weapons to fill a role.

I hate the Jag mostly myself, thus why I don't mind seeing it changed! But I understand what you're saying.

Sorry, we can't have both, because if we do we would have more carbines and they would need to add more carbines to the other factions to balance that, and frankly that's too much work for SOE to even consider doing it.

How do you plan on having both the new and old lynx?

Give TR more weapons?
I dont think that's gonna happen.

How does having one more carbine make things unbalanced? In my opinion individual weapon performance is what dictates balance, not how many weapons of one type a faction has or doesn't have. Even if it did wouldn't that mean that the game is already unbalanced? Currently both the NC and vanu have way many more mid-range oriented carbines then the TR.
I don't quite understand you're train of thought so could you please elaborate?

There are already weapon models and stats for both the old Lynx and the new Lynx. However, the driving issue is:
Why do TR necessarily need the new Lynx?

I understand the craving for a high rpm weapon. However, the new Lynx does not fill any holes in the TR arsenal. It merely gives TR more options for the versatile-close-medium range, already filled by the Jaguar, TRAC-5, etc. More variety is good, of course.

The old Lynx gives TR a dedicated CQC weapon. Taking that option away is not a good idea.

So, if it is truly important that TR shouldn't get a single extra carbine, SOE should hold off on giving TR a high rpm weapon, until they can come out with carbines that fill the holes in the VS/NC carbine arsenal. NC could use a CQC weapon to complement the Bandit and the GD-7F, and VS could use a counterpart to the Pulsar C.

All the features that the Lynx will lose from its current iteration to the next could all alleviated by just letting it keep its .75 ADS movement speed multiplier. I know that would leave TR with two .75 ADS carbines where the NC and VS would only have one, but hear me out.

The NC have two .75 ADS assault rifles, the Carnage AR and GD-22. They will have one carbine, the Bandit, that will have .75 ADS and no LMG that has it.

The VS have two .75 ADS LMGs, the Orion and SVA-88. They will have one carbine, the Zenith, with .75 ADS and one AR, the H-V45, with .75 ADS too.

This wouldn't leave TR with more .75 ADS weapons than anyone else. TR would have three, NC would have three, and VS would have four. If these changes go live that means the TR will only have two .75 ADS weapons, the TAR and Jaguar. There's really no reason to NOT give the PTS Lynx .75 ADS in its current state.

If the Lynx does indeed lose its .75 ADS, then TR will only have two options for .75 ADS weapons and that's a pretty bum deal. I've already auraxiumed the Lynx and most likely wont use it much, but I don't want it to be ruined for the rest of the TR player base.

Just let give the 909/125 Lynx .75 ADS. Let it keep its mobile properties. Or, alternatively, give one of our LMGs .75 ADS so we're not missing one. I vote for the T32 Bull.

Pretty simple actually, if SOE decides to keep it and release the new lynx as a different weapon then we will see whines and cries by VS and NC about the weapon disparity created by TR having more carbines, which, considering this will be part of a balance patch, wouldn't make any sense and would be a lot more notorious and harder for SOE to evade than any difference on current stats, so SOE is forced into a situation where they either can release it creating loads of whine requesting for another update balancing that, or they rush to create some new , different carbines to give equal number of carbines to all factions, thus requiring them to design new
weapons, modify existing models (because honestly they won't create brand new ones) and delay the patch to add them to test.

Considering all of that work instead they will simply choose to not see the old lynx as an important loss, which considering it's more limited use compared to the similar-role jaguar will be seen as a valid argument to replace it, Instead they will just finish balancing what they currently have and release it.

Well put, Matixzun. TR having one more weapon than everyone else in a category would not go over well.

Just look at how the Commissar cap worked out, because of that we got terrible gold and lumifiber infiltrator armor

An interesting idea but even if the new lynx was given the .75 ADS movement modifier it still wouldn't quite be the lynx old. Allow me to my elaborate with a hypothetical situation. Say for instance If SOE decides between now and the time of the updates launch to scrap the current changes for the lynx and to simply remove the .75 ads movement modifier. I can say, with confidence, as a skilled (or at least I imagine myself to be ) lynx user that my play style wouldn't change a whole lot. Certainly I would have to be more careful when and where I ADS as I now move slower but beyond that there wouldn't be much difference. Now consider the current changes, one of which is lesser DPM due to less damage per bullet. I find that in particular, along with the loss of the tight moving hip fire, to be the most damaging aspects of the recent changes planned for the lynx in regards to my play style. The reduced reload time somewhat alleviates this but it doesn't quite compensate for that lost DPM as even the slightest interruption in CQC usually results in one parties death. (Assuming of course I know best how to use the lynx )

Please SOE don't change the lynx with the new version, it's my favorite carbine with the jaguar !

Ask yourself, will the TR be happy if they get the old Lynx in the form of Cougar?

I can bet that they won't.
Simply because TR already has many close range options.

Give the new Lynx .75 ADS and I think everyone would be happy. No? The bandit was granted .75, why not the lynx?

Ah thanks for clarifying. Yes it is a valid point that SOE might fear the potential backlash from the TR possessing one more carbine then the other factions. But such concerns the player base has have already existed in the game previously. Consider again my earlier point about the NC having more mid range carbines then the TR. Long has the TR complained about that imbalance and yes while it is being addressed with the current update it hasn't overtly affected the game has it? At least to the best of my knowledge anyways. Besides such imbalances are one of the ways in which factional identity is expressed. You can't just give each faction the same number of guns that accomplish the same roles in different ways at exactly the same levels of performance. To me at least that would be boring

I don't see how this is relevant. TR needed a carbine to compete with the T5 AMC. Can you please elaborate?

They have many options that are good at CQC and good and medium range. However, they will not have an excellent dedicated CQC weapon such as the Serpent or GD-7F. The old Lynx was that dedicated CQC weapon.