It's time for TR and NC to get a LASER/Plasma NS Weapon.It's fair that we get one and fits the lore!

XD I guess that's something to state.

I don't know about that, man. They are hitscan (sometimes), but also lose damage over wider distances, to a larger degree than firearms. They do come with dis/advantages

Hell yeah!

It's the 21st century and we already have laser/plasma/microwave capacity. Besides - VS guns look, sound and feel as wimpy as the faction itself - why would the TR/NC handicap themselves by switching to inferior weaponry.

He... necroed his own thread?

At any rate, technically nobody in PS2 uses laser weapons right now. A laser weapon would be hitscan and have no recoil or CoF bloom whatsoever.

Also, technically a laser weapon wouldn't count as "creepy alien tech" because we already have lasers. Right now high-powered lasers are used in industrial metalworking, so it'd be most likely the NC who would take an industrial laser cutter and bolt it onto a gun.

that would be the same as throwing mikey mouse out of disney land. Auraxis is a NS funpark, thats why the NS logo is all over the place. you will find it on all turrets, most vehicles, on buildings and boxes and even on the ammo pack of the engy. This is not war, its a futuristic paintball game.

Eh I thought for a while the TR should be using laser weaponry.

It makes sense, the VS would be using more advanced Plasma weaponry, the TR using advanced tech as well, lasers, actual lasers, not like the Star Wars stuff where it's projectiles, and the NC, because they're rebels with poorer equipment, rely on the brute force of Railguns.

The play style would still fit, suppression is supposed to be a talent of the TR, and being pinned down, risking being set on fire or burned into a crisp would definitely be deadly.

Who the hell would use regular bullets in the future? I would think armor would just be extremely resistant to regular bullets, the only things I can think of that could work in the far future is railguns, and heat weapons.

If daybreak makes a ns lasher , Phoenix, the chargeable vs esrl, phase shift.

I will buy them. The moment they are released. And my enemies will despair

Lasers are pretty crappy weaponry. Heat in general is and this includes plasma. The only real justification for Vanu using either is because it looks fancy. To make a weapon out of lasers or plasma requires a ton more energy to do the same amount of damage to a human body.

The NC aren't rebels with poor equipment, they're mercenaries funded by corporations.

In two of my NS artillery pieces I had very basic elements of magnetic and plasma technology worked in.



This launch system used magnetism to hold the missiles in place, as well as to give the missiles an initial push to clear them of the firing platform until the rocket motor kicked in. So in that sense, it is based on NC technology, using similar principles to their magnetic-rail weapons.

However it's also pretty clear that NS has not yet managed to perfect NC technology. They can't propel the entire thing on magnetism alone (unlike say the Enforcer). So the result is a hybrid magnetic-chemical propulsion system.



This one fires a giant rocket with a plasma warhead. At the same time, it's not as elegant or glowy as VS plasma weapons. It's simply a bunch of plasma contained in a warhead which is then released when the warhead detonates.

In that sense, if the VS had nuclear weapons like a hydrogen bomb, the NS equivalent would be a messy and lower-tech dirty bomb. Sure both are "nuclear weapons", but one is very much more sophisticated than the others.

To me, it makes sense that NS is playing around with NC and VS technology. After all, the NC and VS only design their weapons, but they rely on NS to manufacture those weapons. Not unlike Apple (the designer) and Foxconn (the manufacturer). And of course when you show someone your designs, they're going to learn a few things from them!

So, I'm going to ask this of you before I put forward my own opinions.

Why do you believe VS "laser" or "plasma" weaponry to have an unfair advantage over the weapons TR currently has? Is it just the bulletdrop thing? I really can't understand why a bullet that would otherwise have all the same characteristics (damage, velocity, etc) as a VS shot except for no bulletdrop would be that big of a difference. Especially due to the fact that VS weapons usually have adjusted values (such as slower round velocities, weapon recoil tweaks, etc) to adjust for bulletdrop.

This isn't even bringing up the argument that bulletdrop for the majority of FPS players isn't a problem as it won't matter at the range for which the weapons were intended.

So I guess I'm asking....Why is it worth it to you, to completely destroy one of the most MAJOR identifying trademark traits of a faction other than just having a laser visual effect when you fire?

If you actually think about it it makes no real sense for everyone not to be copying Vanu and Gauss tech so they can stay on par technically with their enemies. They all copied spawn tubes, teleporters, MAXs and cloaking devices, why not weapons?

Think of it - Hover Vanguards!

better give us NO AMMO required guns

Screw that ide rather them make a new faction specific heavy gun for each faction instead of more NS BS give heavys a real heavy gun one thats blatently more powerfull than the others but has the huge drawback of making you a snail in return so your easy to take out. As a TR i would like something simular to the chaingun except that theres 3 sets of barrels and then all the sets of barrels spin while spinning you know for air cooling and it would just look cool having 3 sets of chaingun barrels spinning firing bullets as fast as a chiangun while they themselves spin like a chaingun unleashing ABSURD AMOUNTS OF BULLETS!

That picture was starting to give me a headache. It reminded me of these:

yeah it was the closest thing i could find to what i was imagining.

ProTip: The NS LMG, NS-11M, has .75ADS

It's TTK is theoretically the lowest of any LMG, but it's accuracy profile is so amazing it makes up for it.

Seriously, on my VS I'm even using it now. It's the best LMG in the game.

No-bullet drop is EXTREMELY over-rated. Every weapon that has it also has 25m/s less velocity, so any on screen distance saved from not aiming above a target is instead applied to leading targets. Also, the only weapon that you use at ranged long enough to matter that has no bullet drop is the battle-rifle (which still has the aforementioned slower velocity compared to other BRs)

Yes I need DAKKA on my TR, alot more of it.

A ton of energy now, but in the future? Generating the energy needed to weaponize them probably won't be hard at all.

I mean we're talking 800 years into the future, I doubt energy production would ever be a problem

As for the NC, eh just because it's a corporation, doesn't mean it's big and powerful. I get it's the future, so production would be increased, as well as populations growing much larger. But the TR has much more people, much better industry, and a professional military much more skilled than the NC could ever build up.

It's not an issue of being hard. It's just always going to be more expensive. You'd be better off with coilguns, still. Burning people at range will always inferior to cutting into them and dealing physical trauma to their insides.

Lasers are good for fast moving objects, which is why we use them for missile intercept.

I never mentioned anything about bulletdrop.


What I said was simple.


Vanu has bullets......So why shouldn't NC/TR have PLasma/Laser weapons? Again how is that fair to us if Vanu has technology that belongs to us.


If you care so much about Traits then you should be against Vanu using any type of bullet/rocket weapon.

if the game just switched to subscription then this game would be so much better, dbg would actually try!