you quote my post and then ignore what I wrote.. or maybe you did not understand? What is that was hard to understand? First : in football there are professionals yes, but people, like me, play it FOR FUN Second : What part of : this is how the game was played from 2013-2018 and a large part of 2019 too are you not getting ? You say, for example, that you'd not get a kill, how do you explain how everyone got a kill in the 5 or 6 year leading to 2019? I mean, what is not clear in the argument? You say "if people played as intended by the devs, they would not get kills" and I ALREADY told you that this is EXACTLY how most people played for 5 years and YES ! PEOPLE DID GET KILLS!!! Think of an advertisement for PS2. What would it say? How would the game be advertised? "come fight for one of 3 factions in a war for continent control". or "come grind your stats for no other reason than to grind them". What do you think? ____ Oh, and while I'm at it, if you don't like football, if you don't want to score goals or prevent the opposing team from scoring goals. THEN WHY ARE YOU PLAYING FOOTBALL?