It's great that the Striker got needed buffs so quickly, but why is the Spiker still unusable?

It's a pistol. Nobody cares. It's not like the cross faction balance depends on spikers.

The VS cares. I'm sure it'ss easy to not see a problem when you have a wide array of good pistols. Not so much when you can barely find one useful VS one.


The TR have been fine for a year without the Striker, so it's not as if the cross faction balance have depended on it either.

Honestly, when i first read this i was screaming "NO ROF BUFF!" But i read it again, and it makes sense. coming from an NC player, this is fair.

No it really shouldn't.

Remember back in the day when the mag could seemingly evade everything?
If the omni-burner worked, that's what would happen.

Or look at ZOE, which had "omni burn" in the sense of a speed boost in whatever direction you want compared to charge.
It doesn't have to be anywhere near as strong of a speed boost as the forward only yet end up OP anyway.
Forward-only can be much stronger -because- of their limitations in direction, and that's a good thing.


Buff it's strength and duration, if anything.

They could just turn it into a 6 shot burst pistol, charging as a mechanic is pretty terrible, and in most cases would be better if they just did the planetside 1 way where the lancer had a firing delay and not a charging up thing, since it feels so clunky to use charging up weapons when they fire after letting go instead of when you click.

I guess the lancer can get by with this mechanic actually, but still, applying to everything is pretty dumb, just like putting shotguns on everything for NC, remember NC are EXPERIMENTAL, but not ALIEN, so they use railguns and radiation, explosives, and anything that gives a big bang. Which in this case means you should give them railguns, gauss cannons, triple barrel shotguns, mining tool meant to obliterate rock turned into anti vehicle, and even almost energy weapon hybrids of sorts.

In that same sense, VS should be about alien stuff, which goes beyond experimental into "this is not conceivable with out technology" which usually means homing plasma, damage over time, melting/burning, physics defying, gravity manipulating, energy tesla ball launching, globs of plasma lobbing, light show of lasers and particles, lighter armor, lighter guns, singular ammunition.


TR are about dakka, and if anything they need proper under slung chainguns to feel complete, putting that gatling gun on everything is pretty much accurate to them, but their firearms are lacking in what they are about in appearance and function.

The Striker got turned into a paperweight with those so-called buffs.......just saying.

Get your facts straight first.

That was a permanent mobility buff. An omni directional magburner would be a VERY temporary one-directional dodge.

All the other pistols suck too so all the factions are in the same boat. The NC and TRs new pistols are both crap too.

The Repeater and Desperado are Amazing guns.

None of those are in the same slot as the spiker.

Those are old pistols, all the brand new pistols suck.

The Brand new pistols are considered bad because they are not better than the ones you already have. The AMP is disliked because the Repeater is already so damn good. Mag-Scatter is bad because the Commisioner is so good.

The Spiker is considered bad because it somehow manages to be worse than the already worst pistols in the whole game.

I will take your Mag-Scatter or AMP without a single seconds of thinking, over my Spiker and i can't think of a single VS who wouldn't.

And that is why it has not been fixed. It's grouped together with 2 others weapons which are also crap so it's low priority

Actually, it's not low priority. Or shouldn't be. Giving the VS a sidearm that actuallly functions should be a high priority. Just like giving the TR a ESRL is high priority, the Spiker should be.

it is important for VS because we have to use our pistols more often than other factions.

Why??

I know All those OMG, I quit this pistol is too OP threads just keep flooding in. ESRL is way way more important then the pistols cause they actually affect the game.

I am TR and I use the Comm/Under boss they are better anyways cause you can actually use them at range

because VS have the least Damage per mag.
TR have the highest DPM and the best pistols while VS have the worst DPM and the worst pistols.
thats like giving the PPA to the prowler and then saying everything is fine and balanced.

I am not the least bit surprised that you are TR. It must be really nice to tell the VS to just deal with it when you have the best sidearms in the whole game. It's kindof like me saying that the TR should just "Deal with" the Striker being bad.

The TR have been fine without the Striker for a year, so technically you should be just fine with a useless Striker for a few more months, shouldn't you?

Pistols greatly affects individuals possibility to enjoy the game, so yeah. It actually is important. Especially for the VS who have the smallest damage/mag of any faction.

The question then is how "weak" do you make it to avoid it being an overpowered dodge?
Evasion, or should I say 'reliable' evasion is a problem. An Omni-burner that works reliably, which it kind have to to justify using it, will almost by the definition of it being reliable tether on or cross the line to OP land. That's just how evasion works.
So if you take that, and compare it to what you can do with a forward-only burner, and how much stronger that can be without touching upon the problems of evasion (because A: only the really good people can use it for evasion and B: even for them it won't be perfectly reliable because of it's limitations), yet instead can be permitted to work more in line with how the current ESF and Harasser boosts work.
It could still be used for evasion, but in a kind of predictable way. So the good enemy can, if they're good enough, play against it rather than trying to wrap their heads around chaos theory that the omni-burner would be.

Make no mistake, I do hope for a burner buff. But I really don't want it to come in a form that has such a great potential of being too good, then nerfed to hardly be worth using/not worth it at all. Just like ZOE.

Because we generally have to reload sooner than the other two (less damage per mag on almost every single weapon), and it just so happens to be faster to pull out the side arm than reloading on almost every weapon we have, Eridani as an interesting exception (I guess).

The repeater is not that good. I don't even use it. It's good at close range spray and that is it.

I use the NS pistols. when they came out and never looked back. They are better if you can aim.


We have more problems then just the striker.

Striker sucks
Lock down on maxes suck
Vulcan sucks
marauder not as good as ppa
All our guns are very sameish feeling same.

TR IS the NS faction all our ES stuff sucks.