If the reverse maneuver bug was fixed, what would change in the airgame?

If by embrace, you mean do nothing then sure. The RM needs some love if they every want to get more the small number of players into the air game.

Removing it would be silly at this point, refining and simplifying to make the air game more fun and or intuitive would be a good start.

The RM is exactly why the "airgame" has less players.


Remove that and you will see more people flying.

You basically just said that the RM takes no skill what so ever.... lol. "slows down so much..." So it requires a RM to slow down and turn around? That is pretty easy to do when I last checked. The RM is not hard, turning quickly is NOT hard, its the fact that skyknights with actual experience and GOOD AIM is what decides who wins and who doesn't. You're entire reply contradicted itself. You said that the RM lacks skill, then you say it gives the RM pilot an extreme advantage? If it lacks so much skill then why is it such an advantage and no one else does it? lol

If u are not lucky enough to be taught by aces in jet fighting you wouldnt compete either. Problem is skill in public servers Is lower in other games. In planetside servers are bigger and unified so chances of you seeing an ace is much higher

The only thing new pilots want to do is farm, and they quickly get that operation shut down.

Are you legally ********?

Serious question.

If this is a discussion that even has to be had, then forumside is confirmed beyond redemption.

"the only thing new pilots want to do is farm"?



Where is the proof of this? or is it a falsely created statement?

Resorting to insults because you don't want to discuss or comprehend the topic.

I don't understand... You people have a lot of other game with stereotyped dogfighting. Why put your subjective feelings and try to destroy a unique gameplay? We, people who like hover mechanics, don't have a choice. If I had a game, where there only would be PS2 airgame, I would play that sh *t NONSTOP and would care less about PS2 as a whole. But I don't.

Your biggest problem is that you're a conservatist.

Also you don't understand a simple fact: HOVER mechanics <=> RM.

Let me drill this into you're head, you're arguing against a skyknight, who yes is better than most but has also been through the "I'm **** and everything is rekting me" phase. Everyone has. You're a tank driver right? You have what 100 hours of flight time? its this exact narrow minded mentality that creates so many ****posts. All the RM does it make turns faster (which is easy) and adds a little thrust upwards in the end, also easy with a bit of practice. When I was starting out learning this, I watch a quick video, practiced it about 3-8 times, and I had it down. NOT mastered but I could competently do it. You didn;t even adress my statement "As well as the RM just simply compliments the VTOL and hover. It adds a very unique flying style and play style and adds even more too it. All you said was just restating what you said prior, not actually trying to prove you're point.

The aircraft is no longer moving forward but its ascending in a backwards tilt or a sideways strafe. So yes, its moving slower than moving in a forward direction at 100+ km. It's easier to aim as it ascends since you're flying away at a slower speed from the target you are pointed at constantly with ease.

It is hard for most players who don't even know this game has a forum. The RM lacks skill compared to a normal STOL dogfight since you can't always keep your eyes on the target in a normal STOL dogfight without losing strategic placement of your craft's field of fire to the enemies predicted flight path; ergo the players would utilize flight maneuvers. With the RM it removes all of that. Its just a game of tilt aircraft left or right, full 180 turn, hold shift, point, lead a little bit, and click. Would you look at that, i just won a dogfight!

The proof is that I fly almost everyday and see it everyday that I do fly? Why are the worst pilots usually the ones farming? lol

Its never quite so simple. (Im not talking about my standpoint, I honestly rarely fly but when I do I do it all day). I've been trained on RM, by aces in classes they set up for our outfit. My thing I would have the devs do is put something ingame, suggesting where to get more info on it and other vehicles. Which I think would be very helpful considering most people I know who play the game only do it until they try everything to get kills, and they don't succeed because they have no idea how.

If you take a s*** in your office, and use it as a paperweight, and would like to keep it as a paperweight. Its still gonna smell like s***.

Maybe they could instead use it as a specific airframe that way not everyone simply uses hover.

I would keep it and name it Frank....

Because they can't hope to fight the pilots that can RM. So they kill what they can in the form of the squishies.

So it IS hard to do! Aha! I finally got you to say it! (lol). This is another one of those instances of "I'm bad so I'm going to blame it on a 'bug' mechanic". I usually never do this but it appears, according to stats.dasanfall (I probably look like a dick now lel) you are a complete pro A2G farmer. And that will be the end of my argument, because someone that just runs A2G has no clue about the air game except how to find the best farm. I may sound like I can't come up with a valid argument with what you said, and I realize this, but when you complain about something that is the reason of why you can't farm so well then I don't need to make one.

So then they try to get better and seek advice. Its not ******* rocket science.

Sky night detected

If the "airgame" as in the ESF vs ESF game depends on the RM, then that should tell you how much the RM is a problem.

Are you mentally ********? Or was it just that hard to tell?

I will go a day and not RM, and I will still kill everything that I find. The 'airgame' does't exist anymore due to DBG's amazing flight control changes making the good pilots quit. Except me

I will even run a racer air hammer reaver just for a little extra. You should also see the comments about you on Emerald reddit. gg