If the NC is not underpowered...

I primarily play TR (only because of friends. I would be NC if it weren't for them), but have put a good 30+ hours into NC and VS each and I can honestly say that TR and VS guns are more beginner friendly. The VS and TR weapons allow newer players to hold down the trigger and still hit their target much more so than NC.

NC weapons are just plain harder to get used to if a player has never played an FPS before. Believe it or not, a LOT of people playing this game have never played and FPS, or a PC FPS if they're a console player. Nearly EVERYONE spray and prays their first time playing an FPS. Don't pretend like you didn't, you're not tricking anyone. NC requires more burst and more compensation, and thus, more experience.

The problem here is that newer players are less attracted to playing NC. If one empire is less attractive to players who are new to FPS, it will be underpopulated. The best thing the devs can do to fix this, is not buff NC guns, but create equivalent guns for each faction. Give the player a choice upon creation to pick a gun for each class and they have to buy the others if they want them. They could even describe the way the guns shoot to each person in a summary upon choosing.

I hope for the day they make guns for the TR that shoot like the NC ones because I prefer NC guns.

It's like you go into forums with the intent of not giving constructive feedback whatsoever. If you haven't got anything important to say, either state it or don't say anything.

Thank you for your honesty, I do hope for the same very soon because I believe it would add a more dynamic and fulfilling battle for all factions.

Sorry but your statement is false I'm sorry your guns need aim..... but it's the player not the gun that needs tweaking you think nc have it bad with a little trigger control you can quite easily go on excessively long kill streaks. At br 2 and 3 none the less with completely stock carbines. when I can go 5 and 0 and I only see myself as a mediocre player. This was with the nc starting carbine with no upgrades. The only nc weapon with may need a small tweak is the Gauss saw which when fully upgraded has a ttk much shorter than it's tr counterparts. By much shorter were talking a grand total of 2 rounds difference in speed of kill which is huge with ttk's in this game being much less than average reaction time of a second and a 1/2.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/medical/reaction time
http://www.visualexpert.com/Resources/reactiontime.html

Imho the 2nd quoted source gives a better definition than the initial definition.

So to summarize ttk could be as high as 2 seconds with all the other **** going on around you and it might still be faster than you could respond.

Also rounds to kill someone and ttk rises sharply when they are lagging like a bastard and warping all over the player due to latency.

You understand the difference of ttk right? Its time to kill not rounds to kill. If the gauss saw fired at the same rpm as the carv the ttk yes would indeed be shorter but it doesn't total ttk of almost all nc wepaons with the exception of the gd7f is higher then the other factions weapons. According to data. And agree entirely that time to kill become a real factor when lagging. Hence why rof guns are better then slow rof guns.

And to all people who say that NC weapons are fine if you burst let me ask you. If the NC already have the slowest ttk on full auto, need to burst to retain accuracy and the other factions don't need to or can burst for longer resulting in more damage by number of rounds, high damage rounds doesn't mean **** does it? If all faction guns had to burst for the same amount of rounds, then it would matter but they don't. NC have shorter bursts and take longer to recover their accuracy.

I can still hear the cries from beta, let the chumps have their fun with their oped factions, they earned it after being subjugated for 3 months straight in beta.

You stuck to to Gd-7f. It is the best carbine of faction ( by a price in 1000 Certificates). Why not to compare you other? For example Ac-x11... Which is not effective on no distance. Or balance of weapon is it a thing in which only one weapon must be laid from NC? By the way I will notice that Pulsar at VS (by a price in 250) is more than effective.

I mention only the GDF7 because out of all the close range weapons they have its the only one where no matter what weapon I equip (unless its a shotgun) I cant outperform the other guy, his weapon will always be better for close range. Which means, it doesnt matter what weapon I buy, he will cut me in half. I would like to get my hands on the gun myself for testing so I can properly see how effective it is, and confirm that I dont just suck. The only full auto weapon I can think of that will out damage it is the TRV, which requires me to use medic, and even then they still kick my *** with hat weapon. I always do very well until someone rulls up on me with that weapon. As for the stock guns such as their default carbine, is quite effective at range and can kill people in close range effective lt as well as I have learned from experience. As for the AC-X11, I have not used it, but it isnt default, if you dont like it get something else lol.

and VS weapons..pff...I hate to say this but thayre for people who dont know how to handle their recoil, they have such a low skill ceiling..no offense to the VS..

But really when it comes down to it, I just find its hard to be good with the light assault on TR, I always get kill streaks easier with the VS and NC light assault. Currently using the lynx with hat class but lately I have found that I will sneak up on an enemy, shoot him up, and he will whip around and roflstomp me..every other class I can do decently with. Perhaps some brave and honest NC or VS will tell me what carbbine gives him the most trouble from the TR or perhaps everyone will just tell me I need to learn to play XD

Without offenses. But you reason as... Grant will hold back from insults. From initial carbines at NC fraction not same and bad... it is simply unavailing. Exactness is too low for such type of weapon. Ac-x11 I took just all the same from after allegedly high force. Expecting that able to conduct fights even on a midrange. I was strongly disappointed in this weapon. As turned out a damage for it is not such and high (in sooth difference only in 20-40 units of damage with any other), and on distance falling of force of damage on whole 40 points. Difference in speed of fire not such and large. By the way for me problem not with a return. I talked - on distance in 50 meters already 1 gets from 3 bullets, other fall by meter aside. And it to do aiming.

PS. Learn to play? You in general about what?

Hm, I play NC and the only reason my KDR is so low is I spend a lot of time playing engineer and medic supporting or burster max for AA once in a while, if i straight up only played LA all the time I would probably be at around 10 or so KDR like I was before I started supporting. If you need help I can help you out.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0ApH3DlM1yfRAdDJ5N2VoR3IxbEtTTnRRTE1taFVJdlE&gid=0

This should solve your problem, if you look at the spreadsheet your Lynx is actually a superior weapon to the GD7, however, the issue you are running into is that ROF is by far the MOST important stat for a weapon in CQC and that reason is due to the flinching/suppression mechanic in game that each time you get hit by a bullet your cone of bloom increases, your sights jump up, and your accuracy is penalized. Since the GD7 is your highest rate of fire gun with lowest damage, it actually serves perfectly for CQC since the only important stat is ROF, as stated earlier, for CQC.

Though before you start saying OP, nc best weapons, etc. This takes into account inhuman perfect accuracy without things such as recoil etc. This is straight up raw mathematical data taken from the game files.

As for what LA weapon I die to the most from TR it is the Trac5, I personally can't figure out why because there are many times I straight up lose to it with my GD7 if I am not careful. I haven't really seen any other weapon pop up often and when it is a Lynx that kills me it usually is being attacked from behind. It may be due to the superior accuracy the trac5 has over my GD7, letting them flinch me more than I flinch them and since the GD7 suffers massively from insane recoil and very horrible accuracy outside 10m it probably gives them an edge in that specific scenario.

I agree that ROF is king in CQ but I've been having good luck with the AC-X11, 200 max damage and hitting the head wins almost everytime over a gun that only does ~200 more rpm doing 143 damage.

You sir, need to not intentionally make logical fallacies. One specific faction does not train or attract one specific type of person as each faction has people that run the entire gambit and spectrum of players. There is no need for pointless unsupported sweeping generalizations that apply to each faction and not one. Give your argument substance and not fallacy otherwise please discontinue posting.

That doesn't work in CQC though, I believe the argument here is specifically in CQC, the X11 is decent anywhere outside of close quarters (however, the RAZOR GD is actually a hell of a lot better than the X11 if you want to give that a try, I dropped my X11 for it).

Sorry but on my server the NC dominates like its the only faction playing. So i dont know what game youre playing if you think NC is UP but it certainly isnt planetside 2. NC needs to be nerfed into the ground.

Please turn your attention to Helios at any given point in the day...

Settle down. There are way too many of these threads for every faction. If you guys want to show that you are capable and not just whiny children, just jump in game and shoot someone in the face. WAH MY HARD HITTING GUNZ DON'T KILL FAST ENOUGH! Please...

Could be as simple as being stupid and unorganized

Settle down? What are you talking about, I stated an opinion about how you constantly fail at giving concrete evidence or supporting your theory of another faction not being UP. Yet all you can say is "suck it up" If that's really your whole statement save us both some time and don't bother replying until you've got something important to say. Okay? Up until then I'll keep ignoring you.

Wah.