I seriously hate the "Balance Warrior" mentality a lot of people here have

What your listing is only the extreme though, which is a very small minority of the balance threads. Most times those threads appear the majority of posters disagree about outright removal. In fact, DB occasionally locks the threads that simply say "X is outright OP and shouldn't exist" without good reasoning because it's against their forum rules:

In the constructive balance threads there's about as many people going too far in their suggestions as there are not going far enough (whether buff or nerf). Balance is somewhere in the middle, and extremely difficult to get right in one go without additional testing, feedback and iterations. That is the reality, both for the players and the developers.

Feedback certainly isn't the only factor but it is an important one.

Most posts are due to "I got killed by X, please nerf X and buff whatever it is I was using".

I do understand the thought of balance in a game, but I like this game because it is like war. There is no balance in war the side with the numbers and or the tactics wins. When I was in the Marines we did not put away the tanks because to other side did not have any, we killed them.

I agree. I don't call them balance warriors tho. Balance warriors provide us with stats and reputable information why such change would make the game better. What I call squeakers are the real problem. These people come to forums to whine about things that kill them."Oh I was hovering in front of a tank and main canon hit me... Main canon op nerf soe pls" This is what kills us

Because many people think a game is only "balanced" when it is homogenized, when everyone does the same damage, uses the same guns, the same equipment, the same abilities, the same everything. To some players, anything that isn't that, is not balance. PS2 is not suppose to be that, it is suppose to be a game where X defeats Y, but Y defeats Z, and Z defeats X. However to some players that is not acceptable. They aren't happy until the X they use can defeat Y and Z, along with A, B and C. If X is not capable of defeating anything else, then it is not balanced and must be buffed until it can. That is why the word "balance" can be negative, because it's not always a good thing.

They still suck really bad and are proven to be the worst automatic weapons in the game. Still waiting on a REAL buff.

Indeed it is.

Or you mean the near complete lack of any inter community conversation or communication from the game designers to their own official game website.

A company afraid to post on it's own official forum, does so because they are afraid to be held to their word. Which means the company dutifully ignores the site so they can lie or have the option of lying to your face as much as possible, to make any statement they wish with out any worry of blow back for not reaching their own promises. Which makes you wonder if they have any loyalty or will to actually work for their own game or consumer. It's one of the main reasons why Sony had such a bad rep for so long. And why I will continue to avoid giving Daybreak any more money until they fix it because they have only continued the trend.


Sad but true because I was looking forward to a few new titles from them. But there are plenty other options out there for me to spend my hard earned money.

I can hope cant i the weapon is fun to use i like the ideas behind it but it just doesn't quite work for anything.

6/10

Not a bad troll, but not many bites. Lost points for using a ____-Warrior callout, its a bit gimmicky even if it does get results.

If something is tipping the scales and is actually gamebreaking, it deserves to be called out on. The two main examples I can recall would be the original release of the zephyr and the original version of zoe. Everything else, while sometimes really annoying, just is part of the game and will get worked out on its own. I've been playing since release and every other thing to pop up was not always easy to deal with it, but not impossible to overcome either.

For instance, when TR had Strikers and Fractures, it was basically a period NC avoiding fighting TR in terms of air superiority and focused almost exclusively on the ground. And even then, we generally kept vehicles away from the TR front and were more reactionary, since trying to get any kind of sunderer close to the TR involved being targeted by every striker wielder.

Either way, everything was manageable to a point.

Why do I find the notion that a VS stating "those asking for nerfs or balance have been trying to ruin the game since launch" to be utterly laughable?

Oh yeah, because it is. I'm sorry to say this because it implies a lack of understanding on your part, but just because very many people have called for nerfs or balances or buffs and many of the calls for balance revolve around VS as a faction, does not mean that there is no merit to those calls or that VS does not need balancing somehow. You seem to be under the impression that balance callers are out to ruin the game because so many things that get balanced directly affect your faction of choice, often for the better overall but for the worse for VS.

Sorry to break it to you man, but the ZOE nerf, the PPS nerf, the coming 0.75 nerf and many of the nerfs that have impacted VS were perfectly justified and did indeed make PS2 better overall, much like the Striker, Harasser and Vulcan nerfs did as well. We can argue all we like if SOE/DBG nerfed a little to hard or not, but that don't negate the fact that the nerfs were needed to begin with.

Stifling a players thoughts on the forums based solely on your interpretation of what's good for the game troubles me more than the posts you refer to as idiotic or that the mere presence of these idiotic posts poses a threat to you as a player or the game as a whole is shear rubbish.

Actually, I rather enjoyed auraxiuming the SOAS. Not saying it's strong enough, just that maybe I got used to it!

I agree with the original poster.
This game was really fun at first, each faction really had it's own distinctive ups and downs and we all learned to use them for our advantage.
Now, the similarities are way too big and it is boring.
I suggest to balance the forums and delete all the whining threads.

In addition, it seems like alot of people are complaining because only those who want to whine come to the forums, most people do not waste gaming time on writing whine threads when they are satisfied so obviously you see more whining threads than "All good".

You hate them because the devs ignore them? Wouldn't it be a better use of your time to hate people who the devs don't ignore. But any way there isn't anything really here to discuss other than that one person hates people wasting time typing on a forum. If people were arguing for a certain change that made the game just worse we could maybe talk about that in a few ways.

Balance does not have to make the empires more similar. Unfortunately, this particular dev team has taken the less risky route and done just that - homogenize.

In PS1 the factions started off very different, and after many balance changes over the years... became even MORE different. It happens when the dev team is dedicated to faction differences.

Buff Lasher, Magrider, TRAP, SAW, Polaris, Flare, AMC, Lancer, Phoenix, Spiker, MagScat, AMP, T16/32, Pulsar, Corvus, CME, Manticore, TX2, EM1, Striker, and VS weapon models.

Nerf EVERYTHING else. If not...

Hhhhhhhhahahahahahahaha

Lmao,you are humorous as **** xD

Dear OP, you are 100% correct that we don't need to nerf anything and the game would be better without nerfs, please unnerf all of the following items listed because that will make the game 100% more enjoyable.

1.) Shotgun Infiltrators please, completely balanced and fun.
2.) LMG forgrip reducing both vertical and horizontal recoil, I'll show you what a real Godsaw is.
3.) ZOE, that was so much fun for the entire community, what a blast it was seeing so much glowing crabs.
4.) Harrasers and it's weapons, definitely fun going face first into a full crewed AP MBT and win.
5.) INSTAGIB HACKSAWS, I mean that was fun for everyone right? Right?
6.)Infinite range AV MANA turret, I want to snipe vehicle from 1 km, how else am I suppose improve my aim.
7.) OHK invisible phoenix on infantry, please pretty please.

I would love you as a developer, everything would be so fun and everyone would love to play your game.

/Sarcasm.

I'm glad your not a game balance director, face it, stuff needs to be nerfed or buffed, you may not like losing your OP toy but the other players won't leave because of it.