Grenade spam

Are we going to address the fact that "grenade spam" almost always happens when trying to attack a well fortified and established position? Grenades are the counter to that, working as intended.

Join the LA crowd! I barely see nade's!

Also I think people are completely overestimating the amount of grenades that are thrown. Aside from people being spawncamped there's a few rare places where these grenades are truly effective. Most of those places are "in the middle of a Zerg", hey I'm not touching a weapon that's not really powerful against single targets but can kick a Zerg in the nuts!

I don't mind grenades that much - even if they get spammed a bit. What I do mind is INVISIBLE grenades. Those probably account for 90%+ of the deaths to grenades that happen to me. I believe there is a bug related to ADSing where that can cause grenade indicators to simply not render - and when you can't see the damn things they suddenly become a lot more powerful than they are supposed to be. That's why so many just stand still and die to grenades.... they aren't (all) idiots. They just can't see the indicator that you can.

Grenades as a gameplay mechanic is primarily a displacement mechanic. When you need your enemy to move you can use one to essentially say "move - or get punished". That allows you to take a better strategic position or push forwards - preventing situations coming to a complete stalemate. When the grenade indicators are not reliable however - that ruins the whole mechanic. Grenadsses go from "strategic displacement" to "spam for kills".

That, and also of course the terribads who spend all their day throwing sticky-grenades through walls into shielded areas...

-Stigma

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This is a game grenades are a game mechanic they are limited cost resorces there are no victoms somone spamming grenades isnt a hacker he is simply using a tool that is meant to allow breaching into rooms as they are intended having many tossed into a room is simply a side effect of the scale of the game this isnt COD or battlefield where you get a max of 64 people in an area this is planetside where a smaller area than even those games can have several hundred people. Personally ive never had an issue with grenades i hardly die to them they are absurdly weak i can nearly be standing on a frag and still survive even without flak armor they only shine when there is crowded rooms where several will go off and kill people My suggestion is either A- dont put everyone in the same crowded room have some people around the point picking people off that are trying to get to the point(snipers are great for this) or B- use flack armor where you will survive an absurd amount of grenades.

the only time i'll spam nades is during double xp weekend
you can't beat the xp income of an engi with 2 ammo packs, recon darts, spitfire, well placed deployed sunderer and a grenade belt full of stickies!
charge in, stick em, die, repeat!

I am not sure victim blaming is a thing in FPS games, outside of victims of cheaters.

What I am trying to say, is if you are in a building where you are being grenade spammed, it is time to push out to get rid of the grenade spammers, and not just sit and take it.

Either you try and solve your situation, or you can complain about it. One of those tend to be far more efficient than the other.

". When you need your enemy to move you can use one to essentially say "move - or get punished". "

They are very effective, and indeed hilarious, when the enemy can't move

And as has been said, they do their job

You could wear flak armour, or you could use grenade bandolier and join the party

The problem is that planned defenses often amount to "everyone stand in this room behind the 3 bits of cover"

I dont see any problem at all with this.
If 98+ Player camp around a base, a room full of people blocking each other .. they are just asking for this.

Rushing into nade spam with Nanoweave or ASC, that's what happens. This is like the entire point of flak armor.