Emerald's Rock Bottom

I may have been down there a little but spent most of my time in the Sungrey line. I saw a lot of VCO up there and a bunch of other guys. Some of our guys run in other Outfits on TR but we always play together when we're on together.

Have you ever played Vanu? I used to be NC and thought the same thing you did and i was completely wrong. What i've learned was, every faction is the same **** just different color and skins. Some weapons are better than others and some worse. IMHO, the NC weapons are the best.

Every faction is very much not the same. VS is easy mode.

It was probably those Vindicator pricks

lol..dude, I thought the same thing, but i'm telling you, the grass in not greener on the other side. The only difference really is the leadership and coordination. Try it for yourself...I sadly left the NC after two years because of the lack of leadership and people willing to follow orders. Also, i saw too many NC people screwing around, especially at the warpgate. Not that it doesn't happen in Vanu, it's definitely less and people are more coordinated between outfits. That's why we win, because we attack with all might, like any successful military does. But i do miss my old NC weapons though....

We dropped there once last night as a final drop and had a good time 2v1 on the point. Then I went to work, sorry we didn't drop sooner to support that push :/

Typical VS. Thinking they are oh so much more skilled than any TR or NC. You know what? I betcha money that you are actually more skilled than I am, I'm not the best player. You probably are really good at this game and I won't knock you for it. But I find it funny that VS in particular have a very prominent superiority complex or something and always brag about their inherent skill.

Pretty much every VS 'trait' makes their weapons easier to use, however marginal they might be. No bullet drop, high velocity, fast reloads, splash damage, relatively low recoil, accuracy, mobility modifiers, all with a helping of decent fire rate. There is nothing for VS weapons that raises the skill ceiling when compared to the other faction's weapons. Just worse damage at range and a first shot recoil.

I get that you've overcome all the terrible, terrible adversity beset your faction, with crummy pistols and a ZOE nerf and whatnot, but please don't pretend that the reason VS isn't fun to fight is just because VS players are just naturally more skilled.

Wait... do people still play on Indar??

'Try it for myself', he says. 'Im telling you', he says.

Buddy, you might wanna look down at my signature.

VS Emerald aren't more skilled than TR/NC Emerald, they're just more organized and cooperate more with each other.

If you would take a moment to read my commentary instead of knee jerk reacting, youd see that I never referenced individual skill or faction weapojry, and the only thing that set us apart from the nc in that situation was coordination. We had it, they didnt. That was all that mattered.

VS weapons are like slick hot sweaty no rug burn love. I regularly get 10+ kill streaks just messing around. Only way I get that on NC is with something like the Piston or Gauss SAW which i've had to learn to use well. VS weapons are kinda like Apple, underpowered, but they WORK.

Hell, Server Smash vs Cobatl was ridiculous. I left Ymir Biolab with a 10+ KDR using Zenith, Orion and AV Nades

Every single one of those Lancers has a LMG too. Lancers also work against aircraft, so you can't fly in the firing lanes either. Best thing to do is to either try and sneak up with an aircraft or magically assemble a squad of drop bear engis to drop out of a Galaxy at max render flight ceiling and target sunderers. It isn't easy fighting the cheesy.

So, am I a bad guy, man?
Because all I want is a good fight. I haven't been part of that "expedition" you spoke of, but does that mean I abuse broken weapons, have zero sympathy towards the community, and act like an underpowered underdog? Because I don't
Please say you KNOW that there are good people out there. I'm not going to yell like some drunk bastard, but this thread did sort of hurt.

So what you're saying is you enjoy making yourself suffer by playing whack-a-VS and redeploy hell? That's not fun for everyone.

Nobody is scared of the VS. But we are sick and tired of fighting an enemy that redeploys everywhere and hammer-and-anvils everything. Yes, the VS are generally better than the NC and TR, but they also usually have a pop advantage in individual hexes due to their constant redeploying.

When my outfit has just one platoon running and we try to take a base, the VS will hit us with multiple platoons, sweep us out, and then leave. Sure, this is the way battles are won, but it's no fun to constantly be on the receiving end of it.

If you think it is then you must think losing is fun.

I will absolutely concede that VS are more coordinated. I'm not sure why though, because statistically considering the sheer size of this game there should be roughly equal amounts of commanders per faction per server. I'd greatly appreciate an explanation. And I don't like warpgate camping, but I can see what you're saying about coordination to root it out and the fun of holing up in in a defend-able location and fighting off increasingly aggressive odds. However, other notably "VS" tactics include some pretty unneeded 'reinforcements' for fair fights, (though we can blame redeployside for this), roaming Scythe balls, battle crashing, and Mag/PPA zergs are very irksome. There is a difference in mentalities, because while TR and NC are just looking for large, epic fights, it seems VS are just going all out to win in the shortest time possible, or worse, extend the fight ad nauseam for the cert farm. Which means that TR and NC are naturally going to prefer fighting each other because VS seems to refuse giving the kinds of fights they're looking for. It's almost like VS are playing a different kind of game than TR and NC.

But that aside, I will stand by what I said about VS's attitude towards skill. It's especially prevalent with all the VS 'discussion' going around lately, with every TR or NC asking for a nerf, another VS will come by and say something along the lines of 'get better, unenlightened heathens!'.

Again: Unless you need a vehicle only offered at the warpgate

Well, this thread explains why we were killing VS Libs over NC/TR fights last night, and the NC were ignoring us, as TR.

I've just been playing less. The way things look to be going, in 6 months, the VS will be back to playing with themselves.

I also want to add, as someone that switches factions to fight against the numbers, I've been enjoying the merge and being able to play TR again, guilt-free.

Galaxy = Tech Plant
Valk, Lib, ESF = Tower
Flash, Sundy, Harasser, Lighting = ANY Vehicle terminal
MBT = WG, Towers, Tech Plant (Unless you don't have a tech plant, in which case, WHY AREN"T YOU TAKING IT BACK?)

No, I get the feeling VS think a "hard fight' is fun.
Edit: Sorry! Thought this was that OTHER threat asking NC and TR to team up.

Irony here being that Prey/QRY warpgate camped Hossin for several weeks after the merge, making sure that any air that was pulled was quickly destroyed.