[Suggestion] Deployed sunderer's and tank mines

I stronger feel Sunderer's that are deploy should take significantly reduced damage from tank mines its absolutely bogus 1 dude can run up and destroy such a vehicle.

Given the way the certs are structured with the separation of mine guard and blockade armor i feel that deployed sunderer's are far to weak now.. I have no problems with tank mines killing them if they are driving but once deployed they should not be vulnerable to tank mines..

Please consider this SOE

You can already do this, its called MINEGUARD with 1 level of mineguard it takes 4 mines to blow up a sundie, 1 engie can't deploy 4 mines before the first one triggers and kills him. YOU HAVE A HARD COUNTER TO MINES you just have to use it.

No thanks, you gotta chose, protect your sundy against rockets or against mines?
If you plan to deploy indoor mineguard 2 is a MUST, and its just 80 certs.
If you plan to patrol/deploy outside blockade armor could be better.
It just makes sense you cant have both.

PROTECT YOUR SUNDERER <---- this should be sticked on your windscreen

But then the sundy is weak peace of **** which gets taken out very easily by air,tanks,c4 and noob tubes... The mines are far to effective on what is meant to be a heavily armored unit..

Oh noes, choices!

Yeah, guard that thing with mines of your own and AI guns if you absolutely must have blockade armor instead.

Oh yes. So weak that it can take on an MBT with its starter guns without blockade armor.

you never played PS1 did you, sundies are not supposed to be heavily armored, they were about as heavily armored as strapping legal pads to your car. As the game is now, a stock sundie can take on and win against a stock mbt as long as the driver has a lick of sense. Blockade armor is not going to save your sundie if you leave it unguarded from rockets/air/tanks, and if the sundie is unguarded tank mines are the biggest threat to you. It takes 4 rockets from a HA to blow an non blockade sundie, and about 3 AT shots from a tank, this is to the rear btw. You just want to have your cake and eat it too, you have to make a choice here, be immune to mines for 80 certs or be somewhat more resistant to tanks/ha. You cannot have both.

The sundy is a POS if the crew is a POS.
Its one of the best (and balanced) veichles in game.
It has the armor, it has the weapons, but you have to provide the crew and the correct setup for the situation, if you dont, it wont work by itself.

I don't agree its silly one form of defensive stat works against 4 forms of attack and the other stat only defends against 1 form of attack..

If the mine guards cert was effective against c4 as well as mines i could settle for that...

C4 is not a mine, minguard however should reduce damage from anything comming from below, so if they plant c4 below the sundie (who the hell would do that) the mineguard should reduce the damage

(for those of you who do not understand what mineguard is, it is thick metal plating to protect the undercarriage of the vehicle from explosions, the undercarriage is usually the weakest part of a combat vehicle due to weight restrictions and people normally not being able to attack the underside of any vehicle)

Compared to the directional armor certs on tanks you don't really have room to complain that blockade doesn't cover ONE direction.

Now this is something i could agree with... but im not sure it would make sense since c4 is often placed on the roof of the sundy.

My tank mines all up in yo sundy's grill.

I agree, also tank mines aren't even that OP...if you let an engi get that close to a sundy that important....

YOU DESERVE TO LOSE IT

Problem is how the game is set up. Mines are the only thing capable of doing underarmor damage, and its the only location they can hit.

heh every time this discussion comes up the only response that ever really comes out is, but i dont want to give up my xp farm/extra armor against other attacks. Which means they just refuse to use mineguard. They want to have their cake and eat it too, and don't understand why the sundie cant be the uber godlike thing they want it to be, but like i said in PS1 an ams sundie had the armor of a ream of paper.

Well in ps1 the sundie was the deliverer in my opinion: 1 driver, 2 gunners.
I miss it .

HOW CUTE

I miss the upgraded sundies from PS 1 actually, with the side guns.

They could change mine guard to be "placed explosive guard "or something and blockade armour can be for projectile ordinance...

Far more logical..