I honestly can't believe there's now someone who's a bigger Cheater Apologist than Jibba ever was. I guess I owe you an apology for all the years we went back and forth on the topic. I should have been more grateful that I wasn't 100% arguing with a concrete wall at the time. But forget that irrelevant sufferer of U.S.I ... the REAL issue is @ time stamp 7:47 ...where there's a guy literally Roleplaying a No-Clip Banshee ESF without even being in a vehicle Did you hear it? I know you ALL heard it. It's the sound of a Shill trying to protect his community from Logic. ...which he replied to me elsewhere about saying: He actually knows better, (and so do you guys here!) he knows that removing all NUANCE from any future discussions about it like he did in this video to such a ridiculous degree... is a form of intellectual dishonesty and "Rhetorical Expedience" which he of course excuses with the old Canard about why Direct Democracy is ostensibly impossible when 50% of the population is under 100 IQ. This is a rationale that only out of touch Elites use. ...and some dictators too, but that's drifting into Sophistry which I'd like to see everyone to steer away from. The issue of Subtle Cheating doesn't HAVE to remain a known-Unknown. It never did! In plenty of other games, especially ones that allow for Server-side Vector logging and recording, you can know EXACTLY how many subtle cheaters are hanging around never getting banned just by reviewing the replays or getting someone (like me... who actually made hacks and was a part time expert on them) to review them for you. And the best part is, it isn't dependent on your personal Delay frames to the other guy's Round Trip packet McGuffin'ing that the game's netcode is so infamous for. But no body else has ever called for some kind of basic common sense effort for the Developers to integrate that tech into the Quality of Life to do lists. .. .. So we're just gonna keep going round and round on this thing till the game shuts down never knowing the real ratio, because not-Knowing, benefits the Developers. A literal "KNOW NOTHING Party" kissing their feet every time this comes up. It means that as long as it can't be Quantified with a mountain of EVIDENCE like it should be ... that they can continue to make as little effort as humanly possible to address any of it. That seems like a really stupid thing to defend in my opinion. And the only explanation I can think of... is that these Apologists just want to see themselves as the Elite "victims" in this. That's their LARP'ing identity they're so desperate to adopt, And they're telling everyone else to "GIT GUD" to convince themselves that they're in that tiny Chad-Caste of actual talented bros who constantly get accused even when they're innocent. Sorry, but BELL CURVES DONT WORK LIKE THAT!