COD Video Explaining everything wrong with Shotguns in PS2...It ruins the whole skill/fun/CQC!!!!!!!

You cannot honestly believe that can you? You are telling me that at medium range, you aren't better off with a SMG vs a shotgun? Are you sure you are playing this game? You and I both know thats not true at all...

OP, you just made one of these threads like yesterday that didn't go so well. Did you expect the COD video to help this on out,

Are you implying the VS MAX takes no skill to use?

You act like shotguns completely unbalance CQC. They don't. Generally what happens is that the shotgunner kills you, and then is dead a few seconds later from someone who watched him do so. You act like shotguns dominate this game, but they don't..

Ill say again, aren't the "CoD players" the ones who whine for nerfs when something kills them? Learn to adept, it isn't the end of the world if a shotgun kills you.

What is medium range to you?
Generally, its 20-50 meters.


Being able to land two bullets that take out a 12th of the enemy shields at 30 meters isn't "Effective" at medium range under any stretch of the imagination, at that range, you are better off firing a AS 16 full auto with slugs..... WAIIIIIT.

Im not the guy who took off the SIG so people wouldn't look up how the nice 9.0 K/D RATIO was gotten........

I mean I wouldn't take a guy who uses scatmaxes opinion, seriously on a shotgun discussion.


Not jelly breh...I have a 2.5 k/d ratio, not that great but I know my kills come from actul skilled weapons....

The program? I thought the "program" was to have a successful fun game. Guns like the shotgun are what ruined many other games and drastically reduced the population of those games. Could have sworn the point of a evolving video game was to generate income, not reduce player base.

So post your characters name so we can all see you did it with lolpods or HE infantry farming, which of course we all know takes "skill"

The defined range isn't even the point, but ill use your 20-50 m to explain this. You stated that you are in the same position in medium range( your 20-50m) when using a SMG and a shotgun. A SMG, you can still HIT targets at those ranges even with the dmg fall off. Hell SMGs get Soft-Point ammo for a reason. Shotguns don't get that because they are ONLY MEANT for CQC.

So if you honestly believe you shotguns and SMGs can deal the same amount of dmg in medium range, I have nothing else to say.

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Yep, you said it.

I hate CoD... Im a big fan of the valve series. But honestly, CoD players fps skills are horrific compared to a lot of the old school FPS vets, but compared to modern planetside 2 players... it would be a stretch to say planetside 2 players are BETTER then CoD Players.

@Everyone who thinks shotguns are OP.

Planetside 2 is a MMO... get ready for it... its.... coming.... almost there.... FPSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS. If FPS games are not your strength, if you never played old school fps games until now, if you are NEW to fps games... please stop complaining about shotguns.

Look at YOUR skill level before blaming the GAME. It is your SUB-PAR skill that you think shotguns are OP.

Planetside 2 is a hard fps game for new comers. Don't expect to get better by COMPLAINING about weapons. Adjust your skill level, train harder.

Landing two bullets every 30 rounds isn't that much of an advantage at medium range.......

Using either weapon at those ranges is an exercise in futility.

Thank you sir. Absolutely this.

Post your characters name noob, or stop crying like a baby.

Burst fire. That is all.

Can you do that with a shotgun?

quote where i was talking about one shot kills? it's not even about that. people are upset because a shotgun is superior indoors. go figure. all 4 weapon types i mentioned in the hands of a remotely good player should and will destroy a shotgun user outdoors. and yet people are ok with this and not a single thread complaining about it exist on this forums. because it makes sense. if people want to attack buildings, towers and biolabs with an inferior weapon for the job then that's their incompetence.

Slugs are magical.

Seriously.

Slugs change the entire playstyle of a shotgun. This thread is about shotguns being overpowered in CQC. If you are going to play stupid, I'm done arguing with you.

With a shotgun your aim matters MORE when strafing and moving. At CQC most of your pellets will land within your aiming reticle which means that if that's not on target, you don't get any hits. I've been killed several times by people who moved skillfully/I was **** that day, and I couldn't quite line up shots on them with the shotgun.. They just hipfire sprayed and kept my center of mass in the center of the screen and got the kill. It doesn't happen often, but I've also been getting better with the shotgun.

People not having good enough aim with an SMG/carbine to take people out quickly at CQC isn't the fault of a shotgun, it's the fault of them not having good aim. I use the VX6 a decent amount and if I get the jump on people I can kill them (in practical terms) every bit as quick as with the shotgun. I get behind them, unload on their head, they die before they can react. Oh, and I can do that from 20-30m as well. Shotgun I MUST be right on top of them.

Not totally, but they shift the playstyle.

The shotguns double their TTK, forgetting headshots, but they still beat SMG's in TTK.