COD Video Explaining everything wrong with Shotguns in PS2...It ruins the whole skill/fun/CQC!!!!!!!

I'm normally not one to bring up someone's KD against them, as I find that is in poor taste.

But in this case, I have to say, I think this fellow is just jealous that your epeen is bigger.

It's one thing to dig at someone for having a low KD, which in my opinion is kind of pointless already, but to dig at someone for having a high KD?

***** Please.

Here's the problem with your original video... CoD and PS2 are completely different games. You can't really camp as a LA effectively with a shotgun because you rarely get 1v1 situations. And people come find you. Grenades get thrown, a MAX walks through the door, another guy with a shotgun gets you. Yes, in a CQC situation all other things being equal, a shotgun will beat any other weapon hands down. Wait... You mean... the gun that fires multiple large projectiles in a spread is better at taking people out close range than a gun that fires one bullet at a time in a straight line!?!? MIND BLOWN!

Past about 5-10m shotguns are beyond worthless, you can't do any damage with them without slug ammo and then you're incredibly crippled(baring a lucky shot) at close range. It's a trade off that should be used situationally. In bio-lab fights... I almost always run LA with a shotgun and I essentially play counter LA by being mobile 24/7 on rooftops and in the environment. You play to the strengths of the environment. I'd also like to mention that before I had the shotgun I used HA in Biolabs with a Pulsar LSW and never felt at a huge disadvantage against people with shotguns. Sure, I got insta-killed sometimes but that was typically when they got behind me so that was my own fault. In 1v1 I killed people with shotguns fairly often as long as I was aware and had good aim.

I've been playing LA quite a bit and I use the pump shotgun (before anyone tries to say I'm biased) however I've still played HA and Infiltrator more and my Pulsar and Parallax are both around 1k. Here is what shotguns are good for.

1: Jumpjet above or behind the enemy.
2: Close distance rapidly
3: Shoot in face
4: Profit

If you screw up 1 or 2 you'll probably get killed. If you camp around a corner you might get one or two guys but you won't last long because(especially with the pump) you're limited in how quickly you can take people out due to the firing time so if 2 or 3 halfway competent enemies rush you at once you're dead, simple as that. In addition, the pump-shotgun has a HUGE reload time. When you run out everyone around you better be dead or you're SOL because it takes several seconds to even get another round or two chambered.

Tl;Dr Shotguns are doing what they're supposed to, it's A LOT harder to camp in PS2 than in CoD, the shotguns have pretty glaring drawbacks: Slow RoF, Long reload, small magazine sizes, small ammo capacity, worthless beyond CQC.

Edit: Since we all seem to be so obsessed with K/D and stats, I'll save you all the trouble. https://players.planetside2.com/#!/5428017900402542497/stats

I'll re-add my NC alt's signature, to please you, Mr sh@!-for-brains. I'm unsure of how accuracy is calculated in this game, and I really could not give less of a flying fu@#. Stats don't mean sh--. You know what does? The fact that i'd rip you apart, with, or without a shotgun.

Thats not EGO...Thats fact.


He is too busy flying Scythes/Camping with ScatMaxes...He doesn't know crap about infantry.


I do have an EGO...I want skillful CQC battles...My ego loves destroying people with actual skill.....otherwise I will just camp by using scatmax like some that one guy.

Nice COD speak.

No reason to keep arguing with you. Now Forumside can see the kind of players that complain about shotguns.

I dont think they underpowered when getting repaired and camping.

Hey, hey, hey. You're completely ignoring me, and the other sane individuals.

I challange you to a battle. Go in, play with the VS MAX, and post some awesome gameplay w/ it. It seems you think it's super easy and common to do good with the VS MAX, so you must be a formidable player.

Of course, i'll also post some good ol' VS MAX gameplay .

Go onto my channel, check out the first video I ever posted. Soloing enemy MAXes that are getting repaired.

Exactly...Guy is proud however and thinks by rocket spamming/shotgun spamming he knows Infantry CQC.

Lol, I edited that post only moments after posting it. That means you took the full five minutes to type up a BS response. You are a sad individual.

How the hell would you know if i'm getting repaired or not?

YOU MUST BE A PSYCHIC!

Although the OP's video was... notoriously immature and hormone filled, I still do agree that Shotguns are a bit of an issue.

The main issue is that they are badly implemented.

Dude SMG and Carbine arn't even close.

With a carbine, I can actually react.....and kill em.

With SMG might be harder but I still think you could react and if ur good enough kill em...I done that to Infiltrators.

Shotgun is game over....If he gets you, he gets you, no reaction time.

Huge difference.

We have SMG's to do what shotguns are supposed to do.........

Yet, why are they so inferior?

Their TTK is twice that of a shotgun, due to shotguns having very high alpha strike which hasn't been really balanced with the other CQC weapons....

Assuming you didn't kill the person instantly through nanoweave 5.

You know what I really hate?

I hate zephyr/dalton spam. Man, when I first started to play, walking out of that spawn room like a "noob" and getting farmed, 2, 3, even 4 times. I thought zephyr/dalton spammers were the lowest form of life on Auraxis (they're not, BR 10 NC lightning drivers are ). But you know what, that doesn't matter, at all. Because those lib players are under no obligation to play in a manner that I approve of.

Neither do Prowler HE spammers (pre-nerf - you may or may not have noticed that I never once complained about them), neither did Vanoo Maggie spammers. No one player is obligated to seek my approval on how to determine their playstyle, or to decide what tools are or are not "appropriate" or "honourable" or "skillful" to use.

I have no right to set down and dictate arbitrary rules that other players must abide by in order to feel like I am playing the "superior" game.

Neither do you.

EDIT: http://www.sirlin.net/ptw/

If a strategy works, use it. Don't demand that others refrain from using it because you are not willing to spend the time to learn its counters.

Christ reading these posts, is main reason why cod gamers are not welcome in many games, their attitudes really are bottom of barrel.all the grandstanding, mindless abuse, belittling it just turns games into a cess pit of teenage angst an high-school clicks.

Stop hugging people who roll with shotguns, it'll allow you to react .

If you have time to react to a LA with any weapon hitting you from behind, he didn't do his job right. SMG/carbine, start upper back let it walk to head for carbine, just unload on head with SMG. Close range you can hardly give it a short enough burst to not wast ammo.

Shotguns in general need nerf'd they remove nearly all skill, those saying it don't likely use shotguns or obviously don't run into them. There is no way to react, defend or repel a shotgun in this game unless they are a good bit away from you. Admittedly i do not have the best aim in the world but i would like the ability to at least ATTEMPT to aim at a enemy holding a shotgun. The way the game is now is rewarding those lacking in ability to aim. Anyone can aim at center mass and fire 2-3 rounds of a shotgun.

Scenario: shotgun vs any weapon CQC
Tower base defending.
walk or run out spawn room looking for enemy - boomboom - dead. elapsed time - less than 1 second.

where is the reaction time? how can anyone aim at someone to the left, right, behind or even in front of them? You can attempt to hip-fire at them and MAYBE get them with 1-2 shots which of course will likely only knock their shield down halfway.

Solution? Get a shotgun and hope you kill each other. Then it becomes a game of shotguns. If you want a game of shotguns just get rid of the rest of the guns then and be honest about it.

I play PS2 to have fun, there is no fun in the inability to react to someone shooting at you, yes shotguns IRL will kill you in 1-2 hits, if you wanted realistic damage then why don't you make it so every gun can kill in 1 headshot? I use the SX5 and it is a CQC weapon and i get that lovely rewarding dink sound alot when shooting people CQC but they have time to react and fire back. SOE needs to nerf the shotguns by 1/3 damage or so or give a realitic COF/spread or add instant death headshot box's for all weapons and make it so the max damage sniper guns kill in one hit no matter the area hit, if you want the realism that is. Most non headshot sniper deaths IRL are due to shock. don't forget the instant death of RPG direct hits.

My two pence.

Phreak

Oh... you can tell who plays CoD just by reading their post. Please, share this magical power with me.