Cloaking Cert on the Valkyrie

Discussion in 'Test Server: Discussion' started by Globguy15, Aug 12, 2014.

  1. Globguy15

    As the title states since the Valkyrie Has no Nose gun to help defend it self against esf pilots and is meant to be a transport vehicle. Why not have a cloaking device so it can possibly hide or infiltrate a base by dropping off so troops. While in this mode the Valkyrie gunner can not shoot while cloaked and no shots fro the ruble seats are allowed either. Thoughts?
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  2. minhalexus

    Make it agile and stealthy.

    Agile as the ESF.
  3. DaMann22

    My Galaxy can outrun the Valkyrie and an ESF can easily take it out. If the only defensive measure it has is the front gun then please give it a cloaking device along with at least 6 seats. If its a transport vehicle then it needs to be able to TRANSPORT safely instead of getting shot down from a single ESF/Lib.

    Now I understand that you should have some fighter escorts but realistically this needs to have something more against enemy air. Furthermore in the 3rd and fourth seats I was taking damage while the aircraft took damage.
  4. Colt556

    I loved the phantasm in PS1 and I think the notion of a cloaked aircraft for spec-ops type gameplay would be absolutely amazing. Especially combined with the two extra passenger seats, fly in stealthed, deploy a fireteam, and then be able to provide that fireteam with CAS. Considering how the valkyrie is pretty subpar against aircraft it should focus solely on it's gunship/transport role and I think a cloaking device would benefit it heavily.
  5. iller

    Well no, not that. Agility also implies Velocity. ESF's have RIDICULOUS acceleration
  6. Colt556

    The valkyrie should be slow and stealthy, leave speed to the esfs and being noticeable to the lib/galaxy. That's why the valkyrie cloak should work like the phantasm cloak. If you're taking it nice and slow you're almost completely invisible, but the faster you go the more visible you are. Get in quietly and get out quickly, that should be the name of the game.
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  7. ThePropain

    Also, Higby did talk about adding a phantasm module on his live streams. He was kind of "eh....." on it.
    I definitely wouldn't hold my breath.
  8. Colt556

    Well they're "eh' on a lot of things that'd make this game funner and better. Doesn't mean we should stop asking for it, though.
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  9. Globguy15


    Just looked at some phantasm videos and looks like it could be fun as long as we ram the idea down their throats they will implement it.
  10. Colt556

    I've seen a lot of phantasm videos and that's part of why I absolutely love the vehicle. It's those sort of things that PS2 sorely needs. Actually unique mechanics that can't be replicated elsewhere. We don't need a glorified gunship from battlefield, we need something not seen in the competition, something cool and unique, something that makes us go wow. SOE's just too afraid to take risks.
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  11. Globguy15

    I do not believe its SOE but some of the players would want a nerf of some sort because they got roadkilled by a cloaked Val or some odd reason.
  12. Prudentia

    People didn't complain about Roadkills with the Invisible Galaxy, why should they complain if a slower vehicle had less than perfect cloaking?
  13. Colt556

    I think it should have perfect cloak if it's moving slow. Like sub-50kph or something, numbers to be tweaked. Slow and steady and nobody sees you, go faster and increase the risk of being spotted. So it's like being an infiltrator with a stalker cloak. You can take your time and try to sneak in, or you can sprint and pray to god nobody sees you.
  14. Domdulka

    Cloaking sounds relly good like a FLESH you need be INF to cloak vehicle !!!!!
  15. EternalNightmare

    As said it need its own field of specialisation. The other aircraft already fill most other roles and making it a hybrid will just make it inferior to everything. And stealth recon aircraft should be it. Clocking will give it the edge it need in usefulness it needs without taking from the other aircrafts. No need to fight if the enemy cant see you. Gals are too visible and a lot of shenanigans can be had if you get behind enemy lines unnoticed.
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  16. nubery

    Give the valk a phantasm module. Give us more of what made planetside unique and fun.
  17. Jeralamo

    I really want to Valk to be able to cloak. It would be so unique! If your worried about it being OP just make it so the guns cant shoot for a few seconds when you de-cloak.
  18. nubery

    ESF can track the cloaked valk with engagement radar. Give Skyguards engagement radar as well, or give it as a cert choice to lightnings.

    This means the phantasm can exist, and can be countered. It gives engagement radar a purpose, which it lacks, and forces further specialization to lightnings and ESF.
  19. Xervous

    Even if the valkyrie gets cloaking it will still have the telltale shimmer (at least for people with high enough settings) and contrails, not to mention its audio signature.
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  20. iller

    Roadkills are only consistently possible for vehicles with lots of forward thrust/control

    ...trust me on this one, I fought my fair share of PUG Shrikers in TribesAscend too.



    Actually... that's kind of like asking paper to be steel-belted so it wrecks Scissors. One of the main purposes OF getting 4 players together in a single slow awkwardly flying transport copter, should be specifically to hunt down mobile A.A. ...and yes I'm saying this as a major Skyguard enthusiast. If you just send some lone Heavy or even a L.A. at me who bails out of his much faster ESF right next to me, I'll notice him and will ...and have in the past plenty of times before... head-shot them consistently with the Skyguard before they get close enough to C4. There's a reason Libs worked together with other aircraft just to take out Skyguard & Burster nests.


    Not even a Harasser is a sure thing there, the Skyguard really chews through light armor as demonstrated by the fact it can take out a Phalanx in 1 clip at close range and if Engagement also picked up other ground vehicles, well good luck ever sneaking up on a skyguard ever again...




    Rumble Riders on cloaked Flashes can't shoot while it's cloaked, so there was never any Precedent for anything being "OP" there to begin with. ...Though it might be a good idea for SOE to prevent C-4 dropping out of this thing nomatter if it ever gets cloaking or not. (attaching 'jeep stuff' TO it on the other hand, can't really be prevented and really wouldn't be very effective to begin with)
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